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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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welcome back to the powercast i'm gene

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steinberg chris o'brien's off on special

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assignment

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so i'm kind of forced to do this all by

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my lonesome today

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which isn't the first time but we'll get

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through it we really will we've got two

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guests today

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to fill in the blocks when i have

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nothing to say and they are dr robert

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davis

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and he works with the dr edgar mitchell

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foundation for research into

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extraterrestrial encounters or free

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and he recommended our second guest dr

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marie batchelor

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who amongst other things

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i take it marie

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you channel right

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i guess you could call it a form of

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channeling i embody high dimensional

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light frequencies to bring forward to do

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healings on my patients that's a

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relatively new thing for me

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well since 2008 but more recently in

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2014 it became a more significant

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healing modality for me we haven't had a

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person like her on the power cast in 11

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years

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so this is going to be something pretty

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different we've got lots and lots of

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questions

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from our audience and we'll try to get

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through them as we progress but first of

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all let's bring back robert roberts so

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before we get to marie can you give us

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any updates

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on free if obviously since the death of

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dr mitchell what can you say well it's a

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pleasure to be on your show again last

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time i was on we discussed the results

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from our two-year now long study

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conducted by the members of free which

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was co-founded again by dr mitchell the

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sixth person to walk on the moon and who

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also founded the institute for noetic

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sciences and free astrophysicist rudy

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shield from harvard university ray

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hernandez and noted researcher mary

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rodwell in research in ufos and when i

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was on your show last we discussed the

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results from about 2 000 individuals who

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claim to have conscious recall of their

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interactions with ufos and associated

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non-human intelligences now we're up to

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approximately 4 000 plus

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and what we have primarily found in

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response to over 600 quantitative

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questions as well as 60 qualitative

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descriptive responses to questions is

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that about 80 to 85 percent of our study

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population claim to have very similar

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major positive behavioral

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transformations as a direct outcome of

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their ufo contact experiences with some

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form of non-human intelligence and this

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was manifested in an increase in in

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spiritual matters their ability to love

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help have compassion for others

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appreciation of the ordinary things in

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life

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insights into other people's problems

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concern for the welfare and ecology of

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our planet and a decrease in material

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things in life less interest in

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organized religion a belief in fear

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after death the point is it's so similar

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and stated with such conviction that it

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is simply hard to ignore

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the outcomes of our results which need

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to be built

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upon by other investigators for

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validation purposes bottom line 83

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do not want their contact experiences to

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end because it is so positive

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over time now initially obviously it's a

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traumatic experience people can suffer

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from ptsd as a result of this unique uh

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experience so they claim and i'm not

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saying this is a hundred percent

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happening this is reportedly from a

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large population base who claim to have

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conscious recall which is another

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distinguishing characteristic that makes

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this all the more unique in comparison

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to other few studies in this arena

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but over time and the the vast majority

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of these subjects have been so-called

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abduction bad term more than five times

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so over time they adapt and they realize

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the positive in the vast majority cases

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the positive outcomes

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that are manifested in personal

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attributes and values call of the cycle

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spiritual outcome or the kundalini

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experience call it a consciousness

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extension whatever the popular term is

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these people are claiming to be come

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more humane happier loving caring

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individuals and whether or not it's

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psychosis based or hypnotic based or

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whatever phenomenon is governing it

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they want more of it and it ties into

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what your other guest dr marie batchelor

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is all about we'll go back into that a

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little bit later but i want to ask you

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robert first before we go there

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these 4 000 responses

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how did you solicit them

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did you say this is strictly people who

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have had abduction type experiences

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uh we broadcasted uh

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our research

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initiative in

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many different ways uh in which included

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announcements on radio shows such as

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yours

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letters to numerous

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organizations via their websites on

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consciousness ufos paranormal near-death

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experiences other body experiences

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psychology

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quantum physics et cetera et cetera

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um word of mouth obviously for our

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as well which is by the way

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experiencer.org

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so um and not only here in the united

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states we did this we did this worldwide

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in fact we are conducting surveys in

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latin american countries germany

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uh france russia soon china and over

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time the database obviously will build

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and the contributions from various

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individuals across many countries will

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continue to increase

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in soliciting these comments did you

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state any particular requirements other

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than

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some sort of abduction related

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experience

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oh that they've had

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an encounter with a ufo if they have uh

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interacted with the phenomenon in some

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way we ask them to visit our website

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where they can

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receive directions to con

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to take a survey which is on

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surveymonkey

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and thus we have analyzed the

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quantitative

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responses to 600 questions across six

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topic themes which incorporate many

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different aspects of the of the

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phenomenon which includes the

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psychological effects physical effects

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effects on consciousness perception

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life transformative aspects among others

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is the fact that people look at this

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question you about and that's why i'm

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asking more things about the methodology

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pretty frightening experiences

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an alien creature is maybe subjecting

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them to a physical examination that may

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be painful

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yet at the same time you're saying most

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people who have experiences

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some sort of encounter

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the ufos in the sense

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the fact that they think they're

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these advanced beings or what

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or is that because or or is it something

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individuals or beings

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with whom they're in contact

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present that same question to other

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members of free how to interpret this is

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is a great challenge doing the study is

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specific irrefutable answer to that that

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we all have to keep a very open mind

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about it not draw any firm conclusions

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about it however we can't help but

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speculate certainly and

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this raises more questions than answers

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that these individuals who contend that

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they have a revelation that they're not

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robert davis

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and we're talking about a survey

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conducted by

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free this organization

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that robert is associated with where

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most of the people who had

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these encounters with some form of

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possible et intelligence

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that most of these people have positive

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experience

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now this is the other problem obviously

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to go into something like this robert is

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determining the source

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because it sounds to me like this is not

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much different than a religious

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revelation of some sort what do you

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think yeah and you have to uh you have

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to consider all possibilities as a basis

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to explain what is going on why that's

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so

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positive transformative outcomes

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experienced by individuals who are

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having this unique interaction with

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non-human intelligences associated with

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ufos and they're not always associated

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with ufos but here again we're talking

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about a possible catalyst for change

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whatever that may be and it comes in

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many forms

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in this case it's interacting with

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non-human intelligences but it manifests

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in terms of personal growth and

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philosophical values but it also makes

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the individual so they claim to to be

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part of a multi-dimensional reality and

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that alone may be the trigger for change

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just like for edgar mitchell as i was

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mentioning earlier the trigger for his

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consciousness expansion as he calls it

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was

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on his return trip from the moon and

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and viewing the earth and the universe

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from his vantage point in space that may

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have led him to develop the institute

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for noetic sciences as well as free

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many people have these extraordinary

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revelations from again a variety of

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different sources this ufo experience

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may simply be one of many types and we

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may therefore be seeing what you refer

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to as a religious you know awakening or

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calling

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call it whatever you want we can get

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trapped into the language of it all but

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they do feel more humane and as if their

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consciousness is expanding and they do

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contend through the results that we are

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now interpreting that their spiritual

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eyes are opened

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by their contact with this form of

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intelligence and being exposed to

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alternate dimensions so they say where

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there's an absence of space and time

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very similar to individuals who have

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near-death experiences by the way and

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what's unique is that this ufo

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experience and the outcomes manifested

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from it are uniquely similar to

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individuals who have a near-death

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experience

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kenneth ring and wrote the book the

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omega mega project and we are also

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looking at this too that looked at ufo

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in comparison to nde subjects and

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demonstrated unique similarities which

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we reinforce in our study the point is

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getting back to your insightful question

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is that there is a trigger so to speak

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for change call it a revelation call it

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a religious aha moment call it whatever

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there is a psycho spiritual impact that

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is pronounced and that is expressed with

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firm determination from from thousands

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of individuals the question is why what

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is the reason behind it obviously the

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scientific community would say well

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maybe something's happening to them but

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there's no way to prove it you can't

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prove what they claim they've

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experienced can you

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uh no you can't but the proof is in the

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minds of the individuals who experience

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it obviously we can't take it into

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laboratory and and measure measure it

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quantify it and apply appropriate there

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is to prove or disprove uh and that is

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the first frustrating part my my you

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know past several decades have has been

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as a researcher in neurosciences and it

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is frustrating to look at data here and

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and be unable to to draw statistical

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analyses

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uh and make firm irrefutable conclusions

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i don't think we'll ever be able to do

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that at least not in my lifetime because

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we simply don't do not have the

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appropriate scientific principles in

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place to apply likewise a doctor a

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bachelor who's an md not a phd like me

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you know her unique abilities

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also cannot be irrefutably explained

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with current scientific principles but

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they are valid i know that personally

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these experiences from our study are

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also

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valid to the point that people believe

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it to be true whether or not an

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individual is indeed interacting with

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some other intelligence from either

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another dimension another planet

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wherever who knows or that being tricked

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into thinking that whatever it is

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whatever it is keep on doing it because

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we're seeing that it has a positive

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outcome in the vast majority of

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individuals all right you say valid how

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do you validate this well and and that's

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probably uh an inappropriate term you

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can't that's a good question really

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can't validate it

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in a consistent manner that is that is

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unique to the scientific method and that

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is again the frustrating part that's a

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slip of the tongue that word valid we

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have to be skeptical i i encourage your

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listeners to be skeptical of our results

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and i think the most important thing

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regarding our study is the similarity of

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outcomes with many other

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types of personal psycho-spiritual

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outcomes seen by people who experience

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ndes or other body experiences among

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other paranormal like

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experiences and and we

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in free

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believe that the quantum hologram theory

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of consciousness

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it may explain the interrelationship

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among all

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of these phenomena that tend to give

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rise to these psycho-spiritual changes

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in the again direction of it being

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mostly positive not always

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so you can't validate it the way we'd

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like um i take that word back

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but uh i think we now need to focus on

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the perceptual experiences

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and how that might align or parallel

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with certain concepts in quantum physics

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to see if we have to if see if we can

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bridge that wide gap between science and

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the paranormal or science and

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spirituality in a non-religious sense

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now i have a bunch of questions from our

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audience

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and several are for dr davis and most

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are for dr bachelor but eric the red

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asks you a few questions we'll start

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with one of those questions right now

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and then you'll answer it after we do

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our break it's a long question here and

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it's related so much to what we're

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talking about and he says the new age

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field is rife with people claiming

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without adequate evidence

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interactions with alleged non-human

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intelligences of all kinds

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including everything from fairies to

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ghosts to animal spirit guides and

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actual animals allegedly communicating

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telepathically to allegedly conscious

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trees and crystals and so forth in light

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of this cultural background isn't it

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more likely that people alleging e.t

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experiences are essentially

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making it up

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that's a really tough question we'll

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have to

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ask for your response on the other side

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dr robert davis dr marie batchelor

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[Music]

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hi this is james fox from chasing ufos

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you're listening to the paracast the

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on the power cast chris o'brien is on

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special assignment

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dr robert davis of the free organization

647
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that's the edgar mitchell foundation and

648
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,520
marie batchelor from her home in

649
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australia we'll be talking to more of

650
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her in a moment but before

651
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the episode concluded we asked a

652
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question of dr davis from eric the red

653
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what's your response

654
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well you can't discount that that remote

655
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possibility that people are

656
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making it up or or coming to these kinds

657
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of conclusions or stating that they have

658
00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:58,600
these types of unique

659
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,000
experiences and subsequent changes to

660
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their behavior and value system

661
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,159
we can never be completely certain

662
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:10,880
what is regulating and governing the

663
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:13,279
cause-effect relationship here but we do

664
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see

665
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,640
supportive evidence by other researchers

666
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,720
like john mack who studied 300

667
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,200
individuals who claimed to have been uh

668
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,320
abducted and and he said that people

669
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know their experiences and what they

670
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have uh experienced does not fit with

671
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:33,360
the prevailing mechanistic world view

672
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:36,159
and the vast majority of these people

673
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,760
know there is something that is uh

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not

675
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:42,799
seen or there's some hidden dimension of

676
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:45,919
reality and they're frustrated because

677
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,640
they believe for whatever reason

678
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,120
their experience to be as real as the

679
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,200
back of their hands so to speak yet

680
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,080
people obviously question it condemn it

681
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,720
or put them on uh psychoactive drugs if

682
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:00,640
they report their experience to the

683
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,679
medical community obviously the fear of

684
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,840
ridicule is going to mitigate their

685
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,000
communication of this experience but why

686
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:10,399
so many thousands throughout history if

687
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,120
not millions more than likely

688
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,000
tend to say very similar things now they

689
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,080
could be fairies they could be whatever

690
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,480
intelligence that's governing it uh

691
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,880
call it the gin call it uh who knows

692
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,039
what the point is people are being

693
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:28,240
affected in unique ways

694
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,600
and to them it's a valid experience we

695
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:34,320
want to figure out why is it people from

696
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:37,520
some planet far far away coming here to

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00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,880
prevent

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00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,720
us from blowing ourselves up or

699
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:43,120
destroying our planet from an ecological

700
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,320
perspective

701
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,399
uh are they trying to elevate the

702
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,640
consciousness of our species or

703
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,360
manipulating our genetic material for

704
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,919
their own unique reasons who knows

705
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:55,760
there's so much sense and nonsense out

706
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:58,159
there in ufology it's hard to figure out

707
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,679
what is true and not true and the new

708
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,279
age and you have the new age

709
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,039
perspectives too

710
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,000
some of which are very stimulating and

711
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:10,080
and and informative

712
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:13,360
most of it is entertainment based uh and

713
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:17,200
as authors etc try to make a dollar

714
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:19,520
offer their books or cds or whatever

715
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:20,559
they have

716
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,399
to offer and and much of this

717
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:27,120
whole field is entertainment based which

718
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,399
is a shame because there is a real

719
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:32,880
science here that needs to be applied

720
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,840
studied further by a multi-disciplinary

721
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,720
team

722
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,799
of scientists and non-scientists to

723
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,200
better understand what again governs and

724
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:43,760
regulates this unique phenomenon let's

725
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,159
move on here with the questions

726
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,000
again from eric the red to your

727
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:49,919
knowledge did edgar mitchell have

728
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:52,240
information about ufos he kept to

729
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:53,360
himself

730
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,480
and only revealed to close associates

731
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,279
possibly for fear of public criticism

732
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:01,679
did he i did not hear

733
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:04,640
directly from dr mitchell but i have

734
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,520
been told by a close associates of dr

735
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,640
mitchell that yes he had according to dr

736
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,720
mitchell that he had

737
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,559
clear undeniable

738
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,240
evidence that

739
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:19,200
people in uh either the military and or

740
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:21,440
government were well aware of this

741
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:22,880
phenomenon

742
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:27,760
a physical and spiritual

743
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,159
component to it or

744
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:32,880
physical and let's just say uh mental

745
00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:36,000
component or psychic component to it

746
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,480
yes he was convinced well that's not

747
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,720
really quite the question which is

748
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,200
did he have information that he kept to

749
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:45,360
himself and only revealed the close

750
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,960
associates

751
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,960
about ufos

752
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:50,960
um

753
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,600
all i can say is that he was a he was a

754
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,760
firm believer that the phenomenon

755
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:56,960
existed

756
00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,120
and that led him to

757
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,600
explore the study of consciousness

758
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:03,919
because that was also a component of the

759
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:05,200
phenomenon

760
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:06,240
and to

761
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:08,720
co-found free with that intention

762
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:11,440
because of his personal experiences and

763
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,720
what he was told by others that doesn't

764
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:16,640
really answer anything but let's move to

765
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:17,919
another question

766
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:20,080
are you aware of any other astronauts

767
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,279
who share

768
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,519
mitchell's views on ufos

769
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,000
uh yes in the past tense shared

770
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,799
well scott musgrave is one uh but the

771
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:30,720
the one the person that comes to mind is

772
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:34,320
uh gordon cooper and uh he he's gone on

773
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,440
record uh at in special hearings at the

774
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:39,919
united nations and he was interviewed

775
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:42,159
many times i'm sure jane you're familiar

776
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:43,120
with it

777
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,559
your listeners can look them up on

778
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,440
youtube that's gordon cooper who was a

779
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:50,159
an astronaut going back into the 60s and

780
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,200
70s when he talks about his direct

781
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,480
upfront close personal encounters

782
00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:58,960
with ufos in the in the

783
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:01,519
desert while they were filming uh

784
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,679
uh advanced aircraft heats or ufo land

785
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,679
beings come out collect some soil go

786
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:10,399
back in shoots off at a light speed so

787
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,600
to speak

788
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:13,360
and he's had other

789
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:16,480
experiences with ufos as as a test pilot

790
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,590
okay

791
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:23,440
i suspect there are other astronauts as

792
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,559
well who's had experiences

793
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:28,320
i've been told that that has been the

794
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,360
case

795
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,760
final question from eric the red

796
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:33,120
how often

797
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:34,640
if at all

798
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,679
is free contacted by serious-minded

799
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:39,760
academics and scientists

800
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:42,159
with offers of assistance

801
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:45,039
but on the condition of anonymity

802
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,919
gives them an out anyway

803
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,240
i i don't know i don't know but all i

804
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:52,480
know is that we are contacted

805
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,600
by many leading ufologists

806
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,519
some names would surprise

807
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,000
many of your listeners who were used to

808
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,000
be nuts and bolts

809
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,880
meaning purely physical uh aspect of the

810
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,120
phenomenon who are now looking at

811
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:09,359
non-physical aspects of it like

812
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,240
consciousness spirituality right but the

813
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:13,679
question is about academics and

814
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:16,960
scientists not ufo researchers

815
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,679
yeah correct and

816
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:21,919
we are getting many physicists

817
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:23,839
psychologists

818
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,359
who are coming forward to offer their

819
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:29,599
assistance as well as statisticians to

820
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:33,280
manipulate the data constructively

821
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,079
and we have people like claude swanson

822
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:38,079
who advanced the synchronized universe

823
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,599
model uh rudy shield uh astrophysicists

824
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,159
at harvard among among many others

825
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,480
worldwide you know we're trying to beat

826
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,800
them off with a sick as the saying goes

827
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,760
because

828
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,320
otherwise we if we say yes to everybody

829
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,159
our organization will get a little too

830
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:57,119
convoluted and unwieldly we have however

831
00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,680
noted scholars in many disciplines that

832
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:02,400
are providing their guidance research

833
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,599
and otherwise into our endeavor

834
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:07,440
but you're not publicizing most of their

835
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,480
names

836
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:10,880
well they they're they can be found on

837
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,599
our website there are however members

838
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:15,280
should i say individuals who are

839
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:17,920
providing us with input who are not

840
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,200
formally members or have been voted in

841
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:23,920
so to speak uh by the our board of

842
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:26,720
directors become a member of free but we

843
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,160
do we do entertain ideas certainly we

844
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:32,320
encourage discussion we're not going to

845
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:35,680
shut anybody out and we'll get a lot of

846
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constructive and and advice

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good insights from many

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leading

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scientists and we'll get a lot of

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nonsense too and that makes our task a

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little bit more difficult trying to make

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uh

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sense out of the information we receive

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and direction therefore in which to

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proceed

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fast question here that i want to talk

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about your

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00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,040
initial encounter with dr marie

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batchelor and we'll bring her on and ask

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more questions of her

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the question is here

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it's pretty well known that

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human eyewitness testimony

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it's pretty unreliable in many

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circumstances

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as you might realize

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and i think it's particularly true of

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things they didn't expect to happen or

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things happen very quickly regardless

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knowing that human testimony

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is not

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considered always reliable or reliable

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at all

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how do you judge what you get here

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because you got a lot of testimony and

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all this stuff is testimony from people

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who said this that and the other thing

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happened to them we'll explore more of

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this in a moment with dr marie bachler

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with the first focus on eyewitness

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testimony then we'll get on to dr davis

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experiences with dr batchelor so okay

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robert in response to the question about

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the unreliability of human testimony

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what say you well we are looking at

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results from us surveys which doesn't

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involve qualitative or anecdotal

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testimony in a descriptive fashion you

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know responses that are binary in other

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words yes no agree dis disagree that

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kind of thing but then we do get into

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the qualitative aspect of our research

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and yes it is anecdotal based it is

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certainly based on witness testimony and

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it obviously

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lacks reliability of course and that has

997
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been proven in many different ways we

998
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have to be careful

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how not to interpret everything we

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receive in the form of results

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via anecdotal evidence

1002
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too literally but rather search for

1003
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patterns

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of expression and themes that are

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emerging from the collective thousands

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of individuals who are describing their

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experiences in great detail which they

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do in response to uh 60 open-ended

1009
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:48,880
questions in one phase of our study

1010
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,839
that's not pure survey related but yes

1011
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indeed that that is something that we

1012
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have we're very mindful of and have to

1013
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,280
be certainly very careful about drawing

1014
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:02,400
any major conclusions on the basis of

1015
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:03,839
the fact that as you mentioned that

1016
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witness testimony can't always be as

1017
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,599
valid as you would like certainly marie

1018
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:11,920
batchelor let's talk to you here how did

1019
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:13,920
you first get in touch or come into

1020
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:17,520
contact with dr robert davis i first met

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dr robert davis in byron bay here in

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australia at a conference that he was

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actually speaking at

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and we had a conversation and he said i

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believe that you are able to

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uh give people an experience of

1027
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some form of multi-dimensional healing

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or contact and i said well you know

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absolutely that's been pretty evident to

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me so we actually

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met and had a session and he certainly

1032
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did experience what

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i am able to bring forward with this

1034
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embodiment of these multi-dimensional

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frequencies

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and he then was so surprised by the

1037
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,640
whole experience in fact that he asked

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if i could do it again for him the

1039
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,800
following day and we met again and he

1040
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:06,720
certainly did have another experience

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that was quite significant and i think

1042
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,440
fairly life-changing

1043
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,240
and really opened his eyes and

1044
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,240
understanding to what it was that he's

1045
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,920
studying and

1046
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:19,760
i think it had been you know a very

1047
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:22,800
significant meeting that we had and yeah

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that led to him wanting to sort of

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further investigate what it is that i do

1050
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okay you started out as a medical doctor

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a family doctor and we have we don't

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have that many

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in the us anymore finding a family

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doctor

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here in the united states is almost

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impossible

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you do but it's really difficult all

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right

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at what point

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did you find the reason to

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look into something beyond

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traditional medical science for

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particular issues

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well it was in june 2008 when um my

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four-year-old son was tragically

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injured and then subsequently died from

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a car colliding with him and squashing

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him on a fence in front of me and my

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whole extended family

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and prior to that i had been

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non-spiritual non-religious and would

1072
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,640
have been completely skeptical of

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anything that um

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of this realm and

1075
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,640
it was after that event that i was in

1076
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deep grief

1077
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but i started to get

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guidance

1079
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:35,040
from what i would have described at that

1080
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,000
point

1081
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you know as of some sort of god-like

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figure telling me things and giving me

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00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:44,880
understandings and giving me sort of a

1084
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:47,920
direction to further investigate this

1085
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,880
now my scientific mind was questioning

1086
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:52,720
it all the time saying you know i don't

1087
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,200
understand what this is but then i

1088
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,599
looked into the mysticism of a lot of

1089
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,440
religions and thought well this is what

1090
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,760
they're talking about i just continued

1091
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,240
to further investigate it and then more

1092
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:06,640
and more things started happening to me

1093
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,000
as i mentioned earlier it was in 2014

1094
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,359
when i was in a temple in india where i

1095
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,599
literally got zapped on the head and

1096
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:17,440
that catapulted

1097
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:21,520
my experience and then my abilities to

1098
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do healing for people yeah having gone

1099
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,319
from completely skeptical to

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00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,400
to really you know embodying these

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00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:30,560
frequencies and performing healings so

1102
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,440
it was a complete transformation

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00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,839
all right having undergone this

1104
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:37,839
did you personally have to do something

1105
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:40,400
to validate what happened to you

1106
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:41,440
um

1107
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:43,839
do i personally have to do something how

1108
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:46,960
did you validate look it was really just

1109
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,280
that um i started seeing patients and

1110
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,599
noticing that just in counseling

1111
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,359
sessions that something else was

1112
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:57,359
happening that there was a sort of

1113
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frequency change if you like was coming

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00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:01,440
into the room

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00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:04,480
and people were feeling a sense of calm

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00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:08,319
and then i further developed skills

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00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,119
that really meant that i could bring

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00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:12,960
these frequencies in and actually give

1119
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them a greater experience and the idea

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was actually just to bring them back to

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peace harmony well-being

1123
00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:24,079
and just really remove a lot of their

1124
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,560
anxieties and fears and then that

1125
00:47:30,550 --> 00:47:28,319
actually just sort of progressed further

1126
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,560
and further until this embodiment of

1127
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,960
frequencies became so significant that

1128
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:34,480
it was just

1129
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,560
so obvious that that's what i was

1130
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:38,640
working with now you're saying here

1131
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,680
embodiment of frequencies

1132
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:43,119
all right would you explain what you

1133
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,319
mean by

1134
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:46,880
embodiment of frequencies

1135
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,680
so how i would describe it is that when

1136
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,319
we live in our you know current in our

1137
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:54,800
3d reality um

1138
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,000
we we seem to be sort of cut off

1139
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,240
from experiencing anything from a

1140
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:02,800
multi-dimensional realm and i certainly

1141
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,280
in my former life had never experienced

1142
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,280
anything of this and certainly would

1143
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:09,040
have shut it down

1144
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:13,040
if anybody had even tried to describe it

1145
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:15,920
but what the embodiment really means is

1146
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:19,280
that you're with a quiet and mind i can

1147
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,640
access

1148
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:22,079
a feeling

1149
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:25,760
a vibration a sensation that comes

1150
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:29,839
through my body and around me so things

1151
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:33,040
change significantly for me and then

1152
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,480
that seems to be felt by the patient

1153
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,880
okay so you feel it then transfers to

1154
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:41,280
the patient

1155
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,880
all right

1156
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,440
now once this was happening to you did

1157
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:47,760
you go to any outside professionals to

1158
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,559
say

1159
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:50,240
this is happening to me could you

1160
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,960
explain this what's going on

1161
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,800
well it was interesting because my

1162
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,559
family actually thought that i was

1163
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:59,119
having some sort of nervous breakdown

1164
00:49:08,390 --> 00:48:59,920
and

1165
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:08,400
up with any sort of psychiatric illness

1166
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,880
or disturbance but said well it seems to

1167
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:13,680
be you know that you're having a valid

1168
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,200
experience and a few of them were well

1169
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,160
versed in you know kundalini awakenings

1170
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:22,160
and that sort of thing and they said to

1171
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,440
me i think that's what you're

1172
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,480
experiencing however there's very few

1173
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,440
people that you can actually speak to

1174
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:31,920
in mainstream fields that will actually

1175
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:34,480
have an understanding of this

1176
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:37,119
and i then turned to a woman who had

1177
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,000
done

1178
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:40,000
a form of energetic healing through the

1179
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:43,200
barbara ben brennan foundation and she

1180
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,160
did uh work with me where she she was

1181
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:48,079
familiar with what was going on but said

1182
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:50,720
it had been quite a significant um

1183
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:54,079
experience and that and she she worked

1184
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:55,760
on me and said that what she was doing

1185
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,640
was grounding me which meant

1186
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:00,319
bringing in these frequencies and

1187
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,280
enabling me to have them in my

1188
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:05,680
physicality as opposed to what i would

1189
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,559
say

1190
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:08,800
my description of it was that i was a

1191
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,200
little ungrounded and sort of in a

1192
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,359
cosmic consciousness was the way i would

1193
00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:15,839
describe it where my reality was was

1194
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:18,839
really changed somewhat

1195
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,240
significantly for some time

1196
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,480
where i was getting downloaded with

1197
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,559
information and understandings however

1198
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,720
it really was important for me to ground

1199
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:30,480
it bring it into my body and make it

1200
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:33,920
useful for me to be able to treat people

1201
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:36,960
okay so this means you could basically

1202
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,319
throw out medical science and do what

1203
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,000
faith healing

1204
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:43,599
um well

1205
00:51:03,750 --> 00:50:44,480
i

1206
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:03,760
thought well really are we actually

1207
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,839
coming up with all the answers here and

1208
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,040
so

1209
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:09,520
i just started to use this form of

1210
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:13,440
modality to help people and mostly it

1211
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,960
was with their anxiety depression

1212
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,920
grief

1213
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,559
um and that actually led to a sense of

1214
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,480
well-being which actually seems to help

1215
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,079
their illness

1216
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,240
let's continue with this

1217
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:28,240
in our next segment

1218
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,800
okay and we'll continue to ask questions

1219
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:32,319
from listeners with

1220
00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:35,520
dr marie batchelor and dr robert davis

1221
00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:50,470
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[Music]

1277
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:09,990
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1278
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,680
standard of paranormal radio

1279
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:14,960
and now

1280
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:18,310
here's gene steinberg

1281
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,950
dr marie batchelor who does channeling

1282
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,400
she's a healer

1283
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:28,720
and she started out in the universe as a

1284
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:31,520
medical doctor before all this happened

1285
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,520
and dr robert davis now

1286
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:35,520
robert i wanted to go back to you for a

1287
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:38,720
moment here because you had said

1288
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:42,480
when you first approached us about marie

1289
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:44,559
she was the real deal how did you

1290
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:46,640
perceive it on your end

1291
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,280
i i know she's a real deal

1292
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,440
and i can only prove it through my

1293
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,280
experience there's no way i can

1294
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,160
scientifically sort of speak validate it

1295
00:55:03,270 --> 00:54:58,880
uh and everybody listening to her

1296
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,280
explain uh her abilities

1297
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:05,839
you know shouldn't believe it 100 but

1298
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,559
keep an open mind if they're curious

1299
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,559
the only way to believe it is to

1300
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:12,480
experience it the only way to do that is

1301
00:55:16,750 --> 00:55:13,839
to

1302
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:16,760
have a session with dr batcher

1303
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:19,359
mariebachler.com on her website

1304
00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:22,000
to know whether or not it works

1305
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:24,800
when she did her two separate sessions

1306
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:26,720
on me on two

1307
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,240
back-to-back days i felt the energy i

1308
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:32,240
saw other people in the room have a

1309
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,040
similar reaction to me it feel the

1310
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,839
energy and for me personally i began

1311
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:39,839
coughing for 15 minutes straight

1312
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:42,640
literally that's never happened to me my

1313
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,240
head was spinning left and right

1314
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:49,599
constantly my face facial much muscles

1315
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:52,799
were involuntarily twitching my body was

1316
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,440
involuntarily shaking yet i was lucid i

1317
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,839
was conscious i was questioning myself

1318
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:59,040
saying what

1319
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:01,680
the heck is going on here with eyes wide

1320
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:04,799
open watching other people uh rise in

1321
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:07,839
different ways reacting to whatever

1322
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:10,640
energy she's obtaining and directing

1323
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:15,200
into uh us i have referred in fact other

1324
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,559
friends of mine

1325
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,960
quite recently to have skype sessions

1326
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,880
with her and guess what they they say

1327
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:22,240
they perceive

1328
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:25,599
reality uh as it it's magical as if

1329
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,119
they're perceiving the world through the

1330
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,240
eyes of a child in a very positive

1331
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:32,799
constructive way uh

1332
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,440
and they want more sessions with her

1333
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:38,000
here again i i'll talk to them about my

1334
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,160
experiences with dr bachelor in

1335
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,559
australia and they'll note it they'll

1336
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,720
consider it will they believe it not a

1337
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:46,720
hundred percent and they shouldn't

1338
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:50,079
they should could only accept it as

1339
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:54,480
uh being true or not by experiencing it

1340
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,280
and otherwise it's just words and one's

1341
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:59,520
gullibility or error in inductive

1342
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,400
reasoning uh to make one a believer or

1343
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:03,440
not

1344
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,400
anymore because again i i had an

1345
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:10,799
experience in my you know and people

1346
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:12,559
listening to this will say well it's a

1347
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:16,160
psychotic episode it's a hypnotic event

1348
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:19,119
no it's not uh people don't have such

1349
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:20,559
positive

1350
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:25,359
effects as well as healing like psychic

1351
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:27,920
surgery i had a friend who had severe

1352
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,799
pain in his leg he had a session with

1353
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,280
her and he was has been fine ever since

1354
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:35,440
despite suffering for a long period of

1355
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,119
time from a possible compressed nerve

1356
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,440
she's like a psychic surgeon and here

1357
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:43,680
again what gets my attention is not only

1358
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,200
has life been much more positive for me

1359
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,160
24 7. ever since i've had these sessions

1360
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,839
with her

1361
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,760
they've been validated through other

1362
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,839
people's experiences which which

1363
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:57,680
confirms mine

1364
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:00,880
and um when i meditate i have these

1365
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,440
involuntary shakings with a positive

1366
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,200
feeling as well

1367
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:07,520
that is that is beautiful but as a

1368
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:09,040
scientist

1369
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:12,000
i needed that confirmation and by

1370
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:14,480
looking at theories and quantum physics

1371
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:17,760
as it applies to the ufo phenomenon i

1372
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:20,880
see some parallels between the quantum

1373
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:24,000
theory of of consciousness proposed by

1374
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,760
dr reagan mitchell the synchronized

1375
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,760
universe model proposed by claude

1376
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:29,920
swanson who's also a member of free

1377
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,599
among others that tries to explain

1378
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,760
with some degree of accuracy but not

1379
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:37,680
with irrefutable

1380
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:40,720
conclusions because it's not proven what

1381
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,319
is going on here how do you explain esp

1382
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:46,960
remote viewing distant healing which is

1383
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:50,319
in the case of dr a bachelor among all

1384
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:53,760
other types of paranormal unexplainable

1385
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:55,040
events

1386
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,160
dr bachelor's abilities ufos are just

1387
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:00,559
two distinctly different kinds of

1388
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:03,839
phenomena among many many others that we

1389
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,440
don't have a firm understanding of yet

1390
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:10,000
we know they're being experienced by so

1391
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:12,720
many people throughout the eons

1392
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,920
but why robert even separate him

1393
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:18,559
why not assume that there's one

1394
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:21,599
cause for all this unusual stuff and

1395
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,920
that may very well be the case we take

1396
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:25,440
the position

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00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,400
that all of these anomalous phenomena or

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00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,640
at least a wide class of them are

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00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:32,880
interrelated yes there is

1400
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:35,200
may very well be i should say one

1401
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:39,200
underlying uh foundation or explanation

1402
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,000
that gives rise to these various

1403
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:44,880
distinctly different types of phenomenon

1404
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,119
distant healing ndes out of body

1405
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,440
experiment whatever your listeners know

1406
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:52,079
what i'm talking about but we do think

1407
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:55,440
that there is a commonality to it it

1408
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:57,839
might have something to do with a life

1409
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,200
force another space-time environment or

1410
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:03,280
another intelligence

1411
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,400
us ourselves maybe driving it somehow or

1412
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:08,960
maybe something unique to the brain that

1413
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:11,359
we simply do not understand

1414
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:15,359
in 2017. so it could be anything but

1415
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,680
it's it's as a scientist i looked at

1416
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,079
science for answers and the only

1417
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:22,640
possible answers lie it seems in the

1418
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:25,599
field of quantum physics but again it's

1419
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,960
highly theoretic the main thing is

1420
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:30,640
whether or not one

1421
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:33,440
experiences whatever the phenomena is

1422
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:34,319
and

1423
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:37,359
decides or makes a judgment based on

1424
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:40,720
one's experience or interaction with it

1425
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,440
that's the key trying to however

1426
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:45,520
understand what governs and regulates it

1427
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:48,720
that's very important too of course and

1428
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,520
free is attempting to do that

1429
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:53,359
we're not going to be successful in our

1430
01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:56,000
lifetime i don't know when the answers

1431
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,200
will appear

1432
01:01:03,030 --> 01:00:59,760
but the point is science needs to focus

1433
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,040
more attention to this ufology certainly

1434
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:06,240
doesn't science in terms of mainstream

1435
01:01:12,109 --> 01:01:09,680
science does not unfortunately but there

1436
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:12,119
are many experiments in esp and

1437
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:13,680
non-locality

1438
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:16,720
among other types of experiments that on

1439
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:20,160
mental intuition that that do document

1440
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,760
quite forcibly

1441
01:01:25,150 --> 01:01:23,760
with statistical significance that

1442
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:25,160
demonstrates

1443
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:28,000
consciousness may be independent of the

1444
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:29,440
brain and

1445
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:32,160
possess a unique force that can have

1446
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,200
actual effects on physical systems

1447
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:37,440
remote from the individual as well as

1448
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:39,599
other physiological

1449
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,000
attributes in people

1450
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:44,160
other people and

1451
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,559
we don't have time to get into it now of

1452
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:48,240
course i in fact i just wrote a book

1453
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,000
life after death and analysis of the

1454
01:01:53,950 --> 01:01:52,160
evidence that will be out next fall i

1455
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:53,960
talk about it you can go onto

1456
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:56,880
experiencer.org and read articles on it

1457
01:02:02,230 --> 01:01:59,680
on the free website if one wishes can

1458
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:02,240
make an appointment with marie to see if

1459
01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:04,720
if that phenomenon is valid for them

1460
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:06,799
there's certainly no guarantees but it's

1461
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:09,359
i think worth certainly worth a try in

1462
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:12,480
my case i i'm a believer for personal

1463
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,480
reasons can i prove it to you obviously

1464
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:16,400
not let's move on

1465
01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:18,640
okay marie i have a few questions for

1466
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:20,480
you from our audience and maybe we can

1467
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,640
continue to try to understand what's

1468
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:24,799
basically happening here again we have

1469
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:26,880
questions from our listeners i can't get

1470
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:28,640
all of them

1471
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through

1472
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,520
but i will get a few

1473
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:33,760
william strathman

1474
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ask you dr batchelor at your website you

1475
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begin your philosophy page with

1476
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,920
people don't realize the matrix is

1477
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:43,119
galactic

1478
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,680
many don't understand that the gods of

1479
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:47,359
the old religions

1480
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:50,079
the great beings and ascended masters

1481
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,920
that people are going to temples and

1482
01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:53,119
bowing to

1483
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:55,000
are really

1484
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,000
multi-dimensional galactic beings

1485
01:03:01,829 --> 01:03:00,000
so question number one

1486
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:01,839
could you describe your current world

1487
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:04,240
view that now includes these galactic

1488
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:05,280
beings

1489
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:07,359
and how it differs from your views of

1490
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:16,470
um well prior to my awakening i had no

1491
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:19,599
understanding of other realities other

1492
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:22,000
than the one that presents in what i

1493
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:24,160
call the 3d

1494
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after my awakening i just had i became

1495
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:31,200
aware that there was something going on

1496
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from an energetic point of view

1497
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:37,359
that was not known

1498
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or spoken of in this reality in

1499
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,920
mainstream

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we'll continue with this response from

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marie batchelor and more i'm gene

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so we have dr marie batchelor dr robert

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01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:26,719
davis and marie was telling us

1611
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:29,520
a response to a question from our

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01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,640
listeners

1613
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,279
now the things that you know here

1614
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:35,359
are these things you looked up things

1615
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,080
you feel things you researched things

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01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:39,600
you were told what

1617
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:42,080
it was a combination of things i started

1618
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,960
to feel things and then researched it

1619
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,799
and initially i started with the

1620
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:48,480
mystical side of religions and

1621
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,520
particularly hinduism it was through

1622
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,000
sort of reading texts and stories of

1623
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,480
great beings and realized beings that i

1624
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:58,319
was starting to put two and two together

1625
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,159
that you know i was experiencing

1626
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:02,799
something that they were describing and

1627
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:06,159
it was then uh actually at um a

1628
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:07,359
conference

1629
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:09,040
you know going back over a year where i

1630
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:12,000
actually met mary rodwell who was

1631
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:15,679
describing people's experiences with the

1632
01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:18,480
ufo phenomenon and also

1633
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:19,279
being

1634
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:21,920
so-called visited by extraterrestrials

1635
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:24,319
and it was on her description of that

1636
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:27,440
that i got the most amazing aha moment

1637
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:30,080
that actually it was all interrelated it

1638
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:33,359
was all the same thing on understanding

1639
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:34,480
that

1640
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:37,759
further researched and read sort of with

1641
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:40,560
greater sort of understanding into the

1642
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,880
mystical side of the religions and

1643
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:44,799
realized that these gods that they were

1644
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:47,520
talking about were actually what i would

1645
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,159
describe as galactic beings excuse me i

1646
01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,080
want a definition here

1647
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:54,239
galactic beings that implies space

1648
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,520
people

1649
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,360
what's a galactic being

1650
01:10:01,830 --> 01:09:59,840
well look i think a galactic being is a

1651
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:01,840
being that comes from a different

1652
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,120
dimension or different frequency band of

1653
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,440
our multiverse now these are concepts

1654
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:10,080
that are extremely hard to understand

1655
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:13,120
however it it's not only an experience

1656
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:15,040
and a knowing but it's you know

1657
01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:16,480
collating

1658
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:18,239
the the evidence and research that

1659
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:19,760
people are bringing forward of what

1660
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,320
they're actually experiencing and then

1661
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:24,159
realizing that this is also what they

1662
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were talking about in ancient times of

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god people you know the gods landing on

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the planet and and directing people and

1665
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,000
and helping them um understand things

1666
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:38,480
and we're going back to ancient times so

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01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,679
therefore

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01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:41,120
the beings that

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01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:42,080
landed

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in ancient times were physical beings

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um i believe they were physical beings i

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believe that people were seeing things

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and saying oh these are gods the gods of

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our time and i think there was a

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physical presence i think that they have

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01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:02,159
continued to visit but they have come

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for most people in the form of a sense

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of energy and i think this is where

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01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:09,120
people say oh i was visited by an angel

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01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:11,920
or i had some guide come to me and i

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01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,320
think that that is the same thing

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01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,080
yeah so it's and you know and then

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01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,640
people saying that they've been visited

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01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:21,120
by an alien presence a being that

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01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:25,280
actually looks humanoid isn't human that

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01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,000
somehow enters into their room into

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01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:30,480
their space and they have an experience

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01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:33,840
with that and my belief my understanding

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01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,679
and from the research that i have done

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and from the work that i do with people

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01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,520
it appears to be the same thing and

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01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:43,760
certainly the experience that people

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01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:46,320
have it's a similar sort of experience

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01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:49,600
people feeling a vibrational presence

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01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,159
people feeling uplifted people feeling a

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01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:54,880
shift in their understanding of of who

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01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:57,840
they are and a sense of well-being and

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01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,800
connectedness and support and it is yeah

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01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,440
generally a positive thing um and

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certainly the work that i do with people

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01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:07,760
it's it is always a positive thing all

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right

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you also say there are powerful beings

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01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:13,679
both human and off-world

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01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,719
with negative agendas if so

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01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:18,719
do you think that any of these powerful

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01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:20,800
beings are out and out

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01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:23,199
liars about what they claim during

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01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:24,800
channeling

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01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:27,600
i think potentially that that is a

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01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,400
possibility i think that there are

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negative and positive beings i think at

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01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:33,920
the moment we

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have a greater presence of the positive

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01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:38,719
beings the benevolent ones who are here

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01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:41,600
trying to shift human consciousness to

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01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:44,480
help the planet evolve and so that

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01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,280
humanity does survive that is my belief

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01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:49,440
however i do feel that there are some

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01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:51,040
negative beings that have their own

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01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:55,360
agendas that are trying to keep us in a

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01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:58,080
sense closed to the greater

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01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:00,480
understanding of who we really are and i

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01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:02,000
do believe that sometimes the

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01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:03,920
information that comes forward is not

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01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,880
always benevolent and that's again just

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01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,280
from me researching and listening to

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01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:11,760
people's experiences and and collating

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01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:14,080
the information for myself and and my

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01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:16,000
understandings and that's what that's

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01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,560
the conclusions i've come to okay so

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this is not an objective thing it's your

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01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,920
feeling these people are telling you the

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01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:23,760
truth these people are beings

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01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:26,320
so therefore have you developed any

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01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:28,800
protocols that alert you to such lying

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01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:31,440
if there is lying look i have what i

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01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:34,640
would call a great energetic discernment

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01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,000
i get a very strong sensation

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01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:40,560
that tells me whether something that i'm

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01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:43,679
being told or experiencing is of a

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01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:48,080
positive or negative vibe if you like

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01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,520
you feel

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01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,360
it's truthful

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01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,280
right and you feel

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01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:55,280
maybe something isn't it's all about

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01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,320
what you feel not what you know or what

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01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,880
you can prove absolutely and this is

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01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:02,960
where it becomes very difficult because

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01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:05,760
our mainstream understanding doesn't

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01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:09,679
doesn't have a way of of interpreting

1752
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,400
this and again it just goes back to

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01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,280
experience and you know my former self

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01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,360
wouldn't have had any idea of what i was

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01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:19,600
talking about however you know i can

1756
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:22,800
only explain that the best way is that i

1757
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,520
just get a deep knowing a deep

1758
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,080
vibrational sense of whether something's

1759
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,640
benevolent whether something's truthful

1760
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:33,280
whether something's of the highest

1761
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:36,000
level of information okay but is it

1762
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:37,600
possible here

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01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,239
that whatever force you're in touch with

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01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,560
knows how to fool you and makes you feel

1765
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:44,400
it's positive and true but they're just

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01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:46,000
playing games

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01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:48,159
that look you know i guess anything's

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01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:50,239
possible however if i felt that there

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01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:51,920
was that it was

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01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:54,480
that it was not for my greater good or

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01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:57,360
for the greater good of other people

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01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:59,040
you know look i certainly wouldn't be

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01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,520
doing this form of work however and and

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01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,080
also i think just from the results

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01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:06,640
people feel better they look better

1776
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:09,360
people tell them that they look younger

1777
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:12,480
their medical conditions seem to improve

1778
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,760
so if it was of a negative um

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01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:17,600
you know a negative agenda i don't

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01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:19,040
believe that we would be having these

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01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:20,640
positive results

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01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:22,640
your website says you want to wake

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01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:25,760
people up and marduk asked this question

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01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:28,400
my question would be to wake them up

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01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:31,120
from what and to what

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01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:31,920
so

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01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:35,360
the way the waking up is basically

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01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,679
activating a person so that they can

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01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:39,840
perceive

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01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,960
a multi-dimensional reality so that they

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01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,719
have an understanding of the truth of

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01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:47,120
who they are so they can connect to what

1793
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:49,360
i would call their higher self which

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01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,199
actually brings in a feeling of

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01:15:55,830 --> 01:15:52,480
well-being

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01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:55,840
um you know peace love joy

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01:16:02,870 --> 01:15:59,280
beyond a level of of you know previous

1798
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:02,880
experience it becomes a background

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01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:05,600
feeling for people as opposed to what i

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see in a lot of people where they're

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running low-grade anxiety fear

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depression guilt shame and those

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negative emotions that seem to actually

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you know run a lot of people so um the

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waking up is bringing in these

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frequencies and activating people so

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that they have a more positive

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experience of life

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we got more to come with dr marie

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we continue talking to dr marie

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batchelor now in listening to you here

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how does what you experience and

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describe

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differ from someone who undergoes

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a religious

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conversion of any religion look i think

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01:21:41,310 --> 01:21:38,640
it is it's very similar in that they

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experience something however it's the

1943
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:44,560
interpretation and i think through

1944
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a lot of religious beliefs it becomes

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quite limiting

1946
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and so

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you know without being religious myself

1948
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:54,400
and and not having a particular

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01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,400
following i think that that sort of

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gives me the understand a broader

1951
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,040
perspective of things but i think the

1952
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,440
actual experience is one and the same i

1953
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:05,920
think a energetic

1954
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:08,400
frequency comes in

1955
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,159
and and a person gets to feel different

1956
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:14,800
now that can present for them with their

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01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:17,360
belief systems as i was visited you know

1958
01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:19,840
i was visited by god or i was visited by

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01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,159
jesus or an angel or however they wish

1960
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:24,400
to interpret it and again interpretation

1961
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:27,600
is always up for you know them you know

1962
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,040
their mind their their belief systems so

1963
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,120
i think it is it is very similar and

1964
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:34,960
this is where i'm trying to link things

1965
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it's really saying

1966
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:38,960
what is going on what is the mystical

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01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:41,920
side that where all religions meet and

1968
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:44,239
where we can actually meet with science

1969
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,360
so what you think causes this may very

1970
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,199
much be as valid

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01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:51,440
as someone who was jewish or christian

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01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:52,880
or muslim

1973
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:55,920
and they feel that's the the cause of

1974
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:58,800
what they experience your feeling is on

1975
01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:00,000
the same

1976
01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:02,000
area that this is your feeling they have

1977
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:04,400
their feeling but maybe one can be as

1978
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,040
valid as the other or what or are we

1979
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:09,120
interpreting that experience

1980
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:10,560
accurately or

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01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,360
in

1982
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,440
conformity with what we might expect i

1983
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:15,199
mean you're a scientist you may look at

1984
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,080
things

1985
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,840
in more of a science fiction and

1986
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:19,360
fantastical

1987
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:21,679
premise

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01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:24,560
look i think the experiences that people

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01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:26,639
are having in their various religions at

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01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:29,280
the in the highest perspective it is all

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01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,560
the same

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01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:32,480
you know i believe this is where it all

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01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:35,120
links that you know we're talking about

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01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:37,760
the same thing but it's just through the

1995
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:39,280
interpret you know a person's

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01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:42,000
interpretation and belief system and i

1997
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:44,239
think the advantage for me is i really

1998
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:46,880
didn't come with a belief system i was

1999
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:49,040
non-religious non-spiritual when this

2000
01:23:55,270 --> 01:23:51,920
happened to me so i was extremely open

2001
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:55,280
to all religions and all understandings

2002
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:57,199
with my research and just saying well

2003
01:24:01,350 --> 01:23:59,120
what's where is this all linked how does

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01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:01,360
this all link and you know i think that

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01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:03,040
was an advantage for me because i

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01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:04,960
certainly wasn't coming from a

2007
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:06,560
background of a

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01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:08,960
particular religious understanding

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01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:10,880
okay so the key here is

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01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:12,880
that you think they're multi-dimensional

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01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:16,320
galactic beings is as valid as someone

2012
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:19,360
saying this is jesus christ

2013
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:22,159
well i guess it's up to everybody's

2014
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:24,960
interpretation and you know how somebody

2015
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,080
views their experience is is definitely

2016
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,880
a personal thing i guess my

2017
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:33,040
understanding is that i've researched it

2018
01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:34,080
across

2019
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:35,679
many religions

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01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,639
and

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01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,000
that's where i've come from my

2022
01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:40,320
conclusions this is not something you

2023
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,639
can objectively prove

2024
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:44,719
it is simply what you feel

2025
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:47,360
based on what research you've done or

2026
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:49,199
what experiences you've had

2027
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:52,960
look absolutely and also from the

2028
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:56,239
experiences that the patients have in my

2029
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:57,360
presence

2030
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,480
so i'm not only looking at my feelings

2031
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:02,880
my understandings my knowings but what

2032
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:05,120
the patient is actually feeling and

2033
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:06,239
seeing

2034
01:25:10,629 --> 01:25:08,320
so that's where i'm sort of basing

2035
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:10,639
basing my understanding let's take a

2036
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:12,239
look at your patients and what you can

2037
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:13,120
do

2038
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:14,159
okay

2039
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:17,120
now some people will say placebo effect

2040
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:19,679
they believe they're feeling better they

2041
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:22,080
have an enjoyable session with you

2042
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,320
and everybody is feeling

2043
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:26,000
relieved

2044
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:28,480
feeling uplifted

2045
01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:30,639
is there physical evidence that anything

2046
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:32,480
has happened other than people feeling

2047
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:33,760
better

2048
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:36,320
uh well the physical evidence during the

2049
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:41,440
session is often um revealed by as um

2050
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:43,840
dr robert davis just described sort of

2051
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:47,040
shaking and twitching and um you know

2052
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:49,440
different spontaneous movements

2053
01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:51,600
uh the other thing is

2054
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,080
is a number of people reporting what

2055
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:56,719
they're seeing happens to me which i

2056
01:26:02,629 --> 01:25:59,679
have found completely fascinating where

2057
01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:02,639
they'll look at me and say that i have

2058
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:04,719
i have shape-shifted that i actually

2059
01:26:10,229 --> 01:26:07,360
have taken on the form

2060
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:10,239
of something else now this just has

2061
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:13,520
blown my mind you know again coming from

2062
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,239
a scientific medical background i i've

2063
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,000
just sort of gone what are they talking

2064
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:20,239
about but i've had a number

2065
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:23,520
a significant number of people tell me

2066
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:25,840
that when i'm doing the work they will

2067
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:26,960
see

2068
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:29,040
some some other

2069
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:30,639
the best way they would describe it is

2070
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:33,040
like frequencies

2071
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,679
that are that make me look like

2072
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:37,440
something else

2073
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:39,679
everybody nowadays has a smartphone with

2074
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:41,600
a camera

2075
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:43,360
has anyone

2076
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,760
who has undergone your

2077
01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:48,159
therapy or treatment or session

2078
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,239
thought to try to take a picture of you

2079
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:52,639
after you've shaped shifted

2080
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:54,880
look they haven't and um that's

2081
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:56,639
interesting i actually have never even

2082
01:27:01,350 --> 01:26:59,520
thought to do it i i you know i guess

2083
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:01,360
we're so deeply into the session i

2084
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,880
haven't thought

2085
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:04,560
uh to do that

2086
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:07,360
um interestingly i wondered with my

2087
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:09,360
skype sessions was this going to be

2088
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:12,560
possible because and and you know i am

2089
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:14,960
getting people even on skype saying

2090
01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:17,520
occasionally that they're seeing me

2091
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,199
shape-shift

2092
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:20,880
but no i haven't actually got any

2093
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,440
photographic evidence of it and you know

2094
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,080
it's not everybody's experience i mean

2095
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:28,080
um you know

2096
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,960
dr robert davis i don't think actually

2097
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,040
has experienced that and that's you know

2098
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,280
it is quite it's it's different for

2099
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:37,840
every individual

2100
01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:40,080
so most people will just see what go

2101
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:42,639
into a trance or what look it's not a

2102
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:46,960
trance it's more just a very relaxed

2103
01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:49,760
state where they seem to drop their

2104
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:52,719
anxieties and their fears

2105
01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:54,400
and

2106
01:28:02,149 --> 01:27:59,600
to them they'll just feel different

2107
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:02,159
sensations things leaving their body and

2108
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,320
upliftment

2109
01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:06,480
sometimes they'll have spontaneous

2110
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:09,520
crying with relief

2111
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:12,080
you know others you know it's just a

2112
01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:14,400
joyous feeling

2113
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:16,719
okay i'm talking about you

2114
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:18,880
oh maybe what will they see

2115
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:20,719
assuming it's not the shape-shifting

2116
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:22,000
thing

2117
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,719
what will they see you do when you have

2118
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:25,920
the session

2119
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:29,040
well some people won't see anything

2120
01:28:33,830 --> 01:28:31,120
and others will see

2121
01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:33,840
what they would describe as as light

2122
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:35,120
around me

2123
01:28:45,230 --> 01:28:36,159
or

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01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:45,240
um

2125
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:46,719
[Music]

2126
01:28:52,350 --> 01:28:48,560
you know some people have reported that

2127
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,360
they can see a sort of energy field

2128
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:54,000
expanding

2129
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:56,800
um some have said they can see energy

2130
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,239
coming out of my hands or out of my eyes

2131
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:01,760
and you know this is what they will

2132
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:04,000
report to me but again and nobody ever

2133
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:06,320
takes out their camera to take a picture

2134
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:08,239
no

2135
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:13,040
happens here you do personal sessions

2136
01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:14,800
you also do skype

2137
01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:16,639
so one does not have to be in your

2138
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,840
presence

2139
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:19,280
to have this

2140
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:22,560
session or this treatment

2141
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:24,719
and and again i have found that

2142
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,960
absolutely fascinating that i can sit on

2143
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:28,560
the other side of the world

2144
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,400
and bring in these frequencies for

2145
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:32,880
people and they can have significant

2146
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:34,880
healing experiences

2147
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:40,239
me ask you about that if i come in there

2148
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,239
with a backache

2149
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:44,320
is that something you can address if i

2150
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:47,040
come in there with a sore throat or i

2151
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:48,080
have a

2152
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:51,120
person who i was interviewing and we ran

2153
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:52,719
into a connection problem we'll have to

2154
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:54,800
redo the interview in a few days for my

2155
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:57,199
technology show he's undergoing an

2156
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:00,159
operation to remove his gallbladder

2157
01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:03,760
now if it comes to dr batchelor

2158
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:04,800
can she

2159
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:06,480
take care of that so he doesn't need the

2160
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:08,800
surgery

2161
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:11,360
it actually depends on a person's

2162
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:12,880
receptivity

2163
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:15,520
i have always had positive results

2164
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:17,679
people will always experience something

2165
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:20,159
but the degree that their healing will

2166
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,520
take place

2167
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:24,000
not only depends on me it seems to

2168
01:30:28,229 --> 01:30:26,800
depend on their receptivity let's go

2169
01:30:29,750 --> 01:30:28,239
into more of this i'm interested in the

2170
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,760
receptivity

2171
01:30:33,270 --> 01:30:31,199
and these factors

2172
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:33,280
as we progress with dr marie batchelor

2173
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:35,360
explaining her abilities

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at healing and dr robert davis i'm gene

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and we continue here with dr marie

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batchelor and dr robert davis i'm being

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very specific and questioning her about

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her abilities

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okay so if a person has a physical

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ailment that you as a medical doctor

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would diagnose in the routine way

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they can come to you

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and

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obviously not in every case because

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you're not claiming that in some cases

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get relief

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again is that complete relief from a

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physical condition

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or less pain what in some cases it's

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complete relief in some cases it's just

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a decrease in their pain

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it depends some people will then have

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further sessions and they will certainly

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get

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you know ultimate full relief but again

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you know as i said it depends on a

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person's receptivity now i i can't

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determine that

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it's something to do with

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their ability to feel the energies but i

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know that there are positive results for

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everybody that i've done sessions with

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they will experience some shift and

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whether it's an emotional upliftment or

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it's a complete reduction of pain it

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depends on the individual so this is

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basically based on

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dealing with pain it's not like you

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break your arm you come there and the

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arm gets better you know i would

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certainly say for any emergency

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treatment that people need to see seek

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normal medical help and i would also say

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for people's medical conditions if they

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feel comfortable seeing

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you know in being involved with

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mainstream medicine and they're getting

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relief then that's fine

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i am just you know often helping people

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that really tried everything and they

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don't they haven't found relief or

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they're facing some form of treatment

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that just seems unpalatable for them so

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they they'll speak to me about it

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okay but we're not talking about curing

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or

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diseases you're not fixing the broken

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arm the broken tooth

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the toothache or the

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possibility of cancer or

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the need to have an appendix or

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gallbladder removed that stuff is not on

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your radar look you you said toothache i

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can certainly assist people with

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toothache i've never been able to prove

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that i could heal broken bones or broken

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teeth i'm sure that actually anything is

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possible i'm not claiming that i i could

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do it but from what i have seen and

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understood

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i believe that anything is possible i

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certainly don't put anything out there

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that i claim to cure cancer but i'm sure

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i help people with with relieving their

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their symptoms and also helping them

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with their ability to cope with it

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01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:11,920
particularly okay it sounds to me though

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that the biggest thing you're doing is

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making people feel better

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about themselves

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it's not really necessarily doing

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anything

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except affecting their belief system

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well you know the headache isn't

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bothering me anymore i'm not feeling as

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weak i'm feeling more awake that's just

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a feeling

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it's not like curing a disease

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i

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after a stroke and she wrote back to me

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after the session and said her foot drop

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is a lot less she finds that she can

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walk more easily

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so there are physical changes going on

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but yes this one of the significant

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things is the feeling of well-being

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fantastic i mean if people can feel

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better about themselves and feel more

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joyous more peaceful more harmonious

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fantastic i think that that's you know

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half our human battle solved right there

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the fact that we're starting to feel

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better being you know in the world you

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sound like a religious counselor or

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someone who's practicing psychology i

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think it's a combination i really think

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01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:47,280
it's a combination of applying a

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spiritual perspective

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01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:52,800
with counselling but it also has a

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vibrational frequency effect and that's

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what i find you know fascinating about

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01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:01,360
my work that there is definitely a

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vibrational frequency effect i'm still

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01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:05,760
you know kind of

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01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:09,280
dim on this vibrational frequency

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01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:11,280
because that's me it's just like feeling

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01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,679
better about yourself and you can have

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any interpretation as i said you can

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call it vibrational frequencies you can

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say you're in contact with galactic

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beings

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that you really don't know it's just

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your feeling

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well you know i guess i've had so much

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feedback

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in so many different ways that by

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collating the information i'm starting

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to formulate further and further

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understanding of what's going on but

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01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:41,679
again it's it's difficult to prove i

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01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,239
mean i can only tell you people say i

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shape-shift i can only tell you that

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01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:47,920
people feel better that they actually

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have less foot drop or their their

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01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,360
visual acuity has improved or during the

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01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:56,159
session they felt vibration

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01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,040
their body started to shake or they just

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01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:00,960
felt a slight humming throughout their

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01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:03,040
whole body this is what people are

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telling me how do we measure it i don't

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01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:06,080
know

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01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:10,560
they've noticed this and it's happening

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01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:12,719
time and time and time again

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01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:16,560
visual acuity so i'm near-sighted okay

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01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:19,199
i have to wear glasses or contact lenses

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01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:21,119
there are physical reasons as you know

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01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,600
as a medical doctor why someone might be

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01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:25,520
nearsighted

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01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:27,840
so are you saying if i

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01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:29,600
undertake one of these treatments and i

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01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:33,199
have no expectation positive or negative

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01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:35,199
if i undertake one of these treatments

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01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:37,600
there's a possibility that maybe i can

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throw away the glasses or at least my

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01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:40,960
vision will be a little bit better what

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01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:43,920
about the astigmatism yeah look i would

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01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:46,239
say that there is a possibility that

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01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:49,280
this that these conditions can improve i

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01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:52,320
don't claim to definitely be able to do

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01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:54,159
anything because it does depend on a

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01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:56,880
person's receptivity but i have done

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01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:58,880
work with people who say they feel the

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01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:01,520
energies in the muscles of their eye and

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01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:04,159
they have felt that their astigmatism

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01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:06,080
has improved

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01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:08,800
right but you can take an eye test

2444
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:11,199
and you know so far i haven't actually

2445
01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:13,520
had anybody who said wow i've thrown

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01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:16,239
away my glasses they have just they've

2447
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:17,920
claimed that

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01:42:24,390 --> 01:42:20,960
they are seeing things more clearly it's

2449
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:24,400
brighter colors are brighter and you

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01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,960
know their vision appears more

2451
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,719
there's a greater clarity to their

2452
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,480
vision now i haven't actually had

2453
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:33,119
anybody so far who's actually had a

2454
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:35,199
session and said could you improve my

2455
01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:36,719
vision that's actually not something

2456
01:42:41,669 --> 01:42:39,119
anybody's actually asked me they've told

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01:42:43,750 --> 01:42:41,679
me about some of their eye problems that

2458
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:43,760
i've been able to improve visual acuity

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01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:45,360
i haven't actually done it would be

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01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:47,040
interesting to work with somebody over

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01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:49,920
time and get them to be tested pre and

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01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,639
post you know a healing session or a

2463
01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:54,719
number of healing sessions and i think

2464
01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:56,560
potentially anything is actually

2465
01:43:02,030 --> 01:42:59,280
possible but you know it's early days

2466
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:02,040
relatively for me um it was

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01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:04,960
2014 when this significant event

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01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:07,280
happened for me in the temple and then

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01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:09,520
brought him more of these abilities and

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01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:11,600
it is growing all you know my abilities

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01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:12,960
and capabilities

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01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:15,440
you know improving all the time so yeah

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01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:17,199
we you know if this is something that i

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01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:18,560
would look into

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01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:20,960
and um you know hopefully wouldn't it be

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01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:22,840
fantastic if this is if this is a

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01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:24,960
possibility well you're saying here of

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01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:26,480
course if someone says

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01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,639
they see more clearly that is something

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01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,719
they can go to

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01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:33,280
an optometrist an ophthalmologist

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01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:35,360
sit down there before all the measuring

2483
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:37,440
equipment and take an eye test and see

2484
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:40,560
you know hey i no longer need

2485
01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:44,080
minus 350 diopters i can go with three

2486
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:45,119
yep sure

2487
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:46,560
sure that's fine

2488
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:49,280
so that would be a way to objectively

2489
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:51,600
demonstrate this okay

2490
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:53,679
you know that's something that i'll um

2491
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,199
be looking out for but you know i

2492
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:58,080
actually it just hasn't come up in in

2493
01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,760
that for somebody's you know gone and

2494
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:01,600
done that but certainly

2495
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:03,600
okay so let me talk about the

2496
01:44:07,990 --> 01:44:05,920
methodology a little bit more here as we

2497
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:08,000
progress for our final four segments and

2498
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:09,520
by the way robert if you want to chime

2499
01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:11,280
in you're free to do so at this point i

2500
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:13,600
just want to try to understand what's

2501
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,880
going on here

2502
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:16,000
all right so

2503
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,320
i could take a session

2504
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:20,239
in your office or wherever you do your

2505
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,520
practice

2506
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:23,840
or i could connect with you on skype how

2507
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:25,119
about telephone

2508
01:44:29,109 --> 01:44:27,119
i don't have skype and lousy internet

2509
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:29,119
connection like we had today

2510
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:30,880
can i call you on the phone and say

2511
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:32,560
let's do something

2512
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:34,880
i have done work with people

2513
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:38,159
just with audio only and there has been

2514
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:39,520
um

2515
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:41,520
definite positive results

2516
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:44,080
personally i prefer to have the visual

2517
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:46,080
as well because i like to see what you

2518
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:48,560
know how the person is experiencing

2519
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:51,040
um what's happening for them that's very

2520
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:52,880
helpful for me but certainly at times if

2521
01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:55,840
i've had um skype problems i have had to

2522
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:58,239
go to purely just audio and yes there

2523
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:01,199
has been definite improvement um and and

2524
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:04,080
definite um experiences i mean i've had

2525
01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:06,239
people who've spontaneously cried and

2526
01:45:10,149 --> 01:45:08,000
actually you know i can hear them on the

2527
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:10,159
other end of the phone you know actually

2528
01:45:12,790 --> 01:45:11,840
having um

2529
01:45:18,629 --> 01:45:12,800
you know

2530
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:18,639
or emotion and i've just had to hold an

2531
01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:20,719
energetic space for that

2532
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:23,760
to um to be processed let's go and

2533
01:45:29,270 --> 01:45:26,560
continue this in our next segment with

2534
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:29,280
dr robert davis dr marie batchelor

2535
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:42,310
thank you for listening to gcn

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[Applause]

2586
01:48:03,350 --> 01:47:59,679
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2587
01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:03,360
standard of paranormal radio

2588
01:48:07,900 --> 01:48:04,639
and now

2589
01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:07,910
here's jane steinberg

2590
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:12,470
okay

2591
01:48:15,189 --> 01:48:14,159
so i'm gonna post something that i

2592
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:15,199
mentioned

2593
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:17,920
privately to dr robert davis earlier

2594
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,480
about marie batchelor okay we are

2595
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,480
talking from a skype connection and so

2596
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:24,080
far the internet hasn't failed it was

2597
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,560
pretty flaky getting things set up and

2598
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:28,080
it was been flaky all morning but right

2599
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:30,480
now it's pretty crisp and clean so let's

2600
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,040
pose to reverse this here

2601
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:35,119
would you have any willingness to do an

2602
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:37,280
audio only session

2603
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,320
with me

2604
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:39,920
on this show i have like i said no

2605
01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:41,440
expectations of what's going to happen

2606
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:43,199
but some listeners know i have various

2607
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:45,040
conditions the only thing i would

2608
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:47,360
request though is you turn on your

2609
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:49,360
camera so i can see

2610
01:48:53,270 --> 01:48:51,840
what you're doing when this happens

2611
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:53,280
is that fair

2612
01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:54,239
yeah sure

2613
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:55,520
can we do that

2614
01:48:59,270 --> 01:48:57,440
yeah sure we can do that

2615
01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:59,280
okay so while we're talking here could

2616
01:49:04,149 --> 01:49:01,760
you turn on your camera on your

2617
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:04,159
skype connection and i will see if i can

2618
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:06,000
possibly see there you go hi there how

2619
01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:07,600
you doing

2620
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:09,760
very well now am i able to turn are you

2621
01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:11,760
able to turn your camera on i prefer not

2622
01:49:16,310 --> 01:49:13,920
to okay all right because the reason i

2623
01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:16,320
prefer not to is because the listeners

2624
01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:18,400
are not going to see the video

2625
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:20,560
if i do see anything interesting what

2626
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:23,119
you do i can take pictures of it i can

2627
01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:25,119
take screenshots like right now you're

2628
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:26,320
sitting there

2629
01:49:29,590 --> 01:49:27,360
in your

2630
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,600
office or home wherever it is

2631
01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:31,760
and i just took a picture of you and i

2632
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:33,679
can take another hit i mean i can take

2633
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,920
the pictures of you as we progress

2634
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,440
because what happens to me i don't think

2635
01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:39,360
people are going to be as interested in

2636
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,239
as

2637
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:42,400
how you react and what happens fair

2638
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:43,360
enough

2639
01:49:49,030 --> 01:49:45,119
sure do you want me to turn more light

2640
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,040
on uh sure go ahead and that's much fun

2641
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:51,280
and i think it's really you know we need

2642
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:54,159
to also understand that a lot of people

2643
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,880
don't have a visual

2644
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:58,239
experience

2645
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:00,159
bob i don't think you actually did you

2646
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:03,360
have any visual experiences i i didn't

2647
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:05,280
yeah and i would say that you know a

2648
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:06,719
great number of people don't actually

2649
01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:09,360
have a visual experience that it's some

2650
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:12,960
more physical experience but i'm willing

2651
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,440
to give anything a go that's fine

2652
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,760
okay so what do i have to do and let me

2653
01:50:21,590 --> 01:50:20,080
just tell you since we have to do this

2654
01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:21,600
we have about

2655
01:50:25,430 --> 01:50:23,280
seven and a half minutes left on this

2656
01:50:26,950 --> 01:50:25,440
segment we can continue through the next

2657
01:50:28,950 --> 01:50:26,960
segment whatever

2658
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:28,960
what do you want me to do

2659
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:31,840
um okay well what i would like you to do

2660
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:33,840
is close your eyes

2661
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:35,679
and bob it's probably helpful if you did

2662
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:37,679
this as well because it will help if we

2663
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:39,679
you know connect with lots of different

2664
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:41,840
frequencies and energies

2665
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:44,239
so if you close your eyes

2666
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:47,520
we're just going to start to feel

2667
01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:50,800
to actually notice how we feel

2668
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:53,119
and what i usually do is i ask the

2669
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:54,800
patients to imagine their feet

2670
01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:57,040
connecting down to the earth

2671
01:51:01,590 --> 01:50:59,760
through the base of their feet

2672
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:01,600
i have set an alarm

2673
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,760
on my iphone to ring when i have to end

2674
01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:05,280
this segment

2675
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,440
okay so we'll hear that okay i'm closing

2676
01:51:11,350 --> 01:51:09,040
my eyes go ahead

2677
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:11,360
okay

2678
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:13,360
so we'll connect

2679
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:15,040
our feet

2680
01:51:18,070 --> 01:51:16,800
to the earth through the base of our

2681
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,080
feet

2682
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:21,280
through the base of our spine

2683
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:24,800
we're just imagining a connection there

2684
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,040
it doesn't require you to do anything

2685
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,960
just relax

2686
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:30,639
try and let go

2687
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:34,000
of all your fears worries

2688
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:37,520
just relax into the present moment

2689
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:39,280
and the earth can actually send

2690
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:42,960
frequencies up through your feet

2691
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:46,400
up through the base of your spine

2692
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:50,000
and you can actually connect more deeply

2693
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:52,480
to the earth

2694
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:55,679
and i like to open you up to your higher

2695
01:52:00,830 --> 01:51:57,920
dimensional self

2696
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:00,840
we are multi-dimensional

2697
01:52:05,270 --> 01:52:03,520
beings and you can get in contact with

2698
01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:05,280
that

2699
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:08,159
these frequencies of you

2700
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:11,360
that exist in different dimensions

2701
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:13,920
and start to come in

2702
01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:16,560
and around you

2703
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:18,639
they'll start to fill up

2704
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:21,440
every cell with light

2705
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:25,199
bringing in more and more frequencies

2706
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:27,520
we can even get these frequencies to

2707
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:30,000
affect the dna

2708
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:33,760
the dna can actually start to unwind

2709
01:52:38,709 --> 01:52:36,320
and we can actually release

2710
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:38,719
patterns behavior

2711
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:42,159
all sorts of things from the dna

2712
01:52:47,950 --> 01:52:45,599
for a positive effect

2713
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:47,960
as we open you up to the higher

2714
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:50,480
multi-dimensionality of you

2715
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:52,080
i'm going to ask for any of the

2716
01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:56,080
benevolent come in and around you

2717
01:53:02,229 --> 01:52:59,679
so we have certain frequencies

2718
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:02,239
that are available

2719
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:05,119
from these higher dimensional beings

2720
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:09,119
and they can make their presence noticed

2721
01:53:13,510 --> 01:53:11,760
again this can enhance your

2722
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:13,520
feeling state

2723
01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:15,520
your expansion

2724
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:17,679
a feeling of well-being

2725
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:20,159
and upliftment

2726
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:22,320
and just a noticing that something else

2727
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:24,400
is going on

2728
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:26,639
now just stop for a moment gene i often

2729
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,800
do this i'll ask people questions how

2730
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:30,400
are you actually feeling have you

2731
01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:33,280
noticed anything different

2732
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:34,719
right now i'm just sitting here with my

2733
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:40,390
okay so you haven't actually noticed

2734
01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:42,880
anything in particular

2735
01:53:46,709 --> 01:53:44,800
nothing special just sitting here

2736
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:46,719
relaxing

2737
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:48,960
okay

2738
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,159
so

2739
01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:52,239
we're going to just try and connect more

2740
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:54,639
deeply then

2741
01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,400
sometimes if we have a lot on our mind

2742
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:00,400
things are happening

2743
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:02,400
that we're focusing on it can be

2744
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:03,760
difficult

2745
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:05,920
to connect

2746
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:08,239
to these higher dimensions of view so we

2747
01:54:15,189 --> 01:54:11,920
need you to let go a little more

2748
01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:15,199
needing you to completely relax

2749
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:18,719
letting go of all fears

2750
01:54:22,709 --> 01:54:20,400
any current

2751
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:22,719
anxieties

2752
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:25,440
time pressures

2753
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:28,480
anything that's making you

2754
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:30,960
project out of this present moment we're

2755
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:34,000
going to just try and relax

2756
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:37,520
into the now letting go

2757
01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:39,920
calling in more and more of your higher

2758
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:42,800
dimensional self to come in and around

2759
01:55:12,149 --> 01:54:44,159
you

2760
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:14,470
bringing in more and more of these

2761
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:19,589
connecting you

2762
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:21,920
again through the base of your feet down

2763
01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:26,629
going to get the frequencies to come

2764
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:30,000
back up from the earth

2765
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:33,599
through your physical body

2766
01:55:39,109 --> 01:55:36,719
and as we open you up more and more

2767
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:39,119
you become a conduit

2768
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,480
of these energies

2769
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you can bring the energies across your

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shoulders

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down your neck

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then opening up through the top of your

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around your third eye around your actual

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more and more of these frequencies the

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and bringing in the frequencies of the

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getting you to open up more and more to

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these frequencies

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i hate to interrupt this we're going to

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have to break that session

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i will say that i won't say i didn't

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feel anything

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and there's the alarm we'll stop it

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i won't say i didn't feel anything folks

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i did feel something

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like a little bit of a buzz if you know

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so i

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as you know

2912
02:02:17,109 --> 02:02:15,280
tend to be very skeptical person but

2913
02:02:19,189 --> 02:02:17,119
i've just asked her reasonable questions

2914
02:02:21,430 --> 02:02:19,199
i think from her audience

2915
02:02:23,830 --> 02:02:21,440
and the things that occur to me

2916
02:02:25,830 --> 02:02:23,840
about what she does and how she does it

2917
02:02:28,390 --> 02:02:25,840
and what i did feel during the time she

2918
02:02:30,629 --> 02:02:28,400
was engaged in this relaxation exercise

2919
02:02:33,830 --> 02:02:30,639
for seven or eight minutes

2920
02:02:35,510 --> 02:02:33,840
was a bit of a buzz

2921
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:35,520
and i'll leave it at that and let you

2922
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:37,360
interpret listeners what you think that

2923
02:02:40,149 --> 02:02:38,880
buzz is about

2924
02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:40,159
i have not

2925
02:02:43,510 --> 02:02:41,920
had anything to drink i've not done

2926
02:02:44,550 --> 02:02:43,520
anything other than have breakfast this

2927
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:44,560
morning

2928
02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:47,040
which was cereal if you want to know and

2929
02:02:55,510 --> 02:02:52,070
cereal and soy milk

2930
02:02:58,149 --> 02:02:55,520
and orange juice and water

2931
02:03:00,390 --> 02:02:58,159
and i took my vitamin pills

2932
02:03:01,830 --> 02:03:00,400
it's obviously the soy milk

2933
02:03:04,470 --> 02:03:01,840
oh that does it that's going to make you

2934
02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:04,480
go crazy let me just emphasize that to

2935
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:07,280
your audience uh maria's not associated

2936
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:09,840
with free i invited her purposely on

2937
02:03:15,350 --> 02:03:11,520
your show to

2938
02:03:18,310 --> 02:03:15,360
as an example of of how much more

2939
02:03:20,470 --> 02:03:18,320
science needs to be engaged in trying to

2940
02:03:22,870 --> 02:03:20,480
explain these unique

2941
02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:22,880
so-called paranormal shall we say and i

2942
02:03:25,750 --> 02:03:24,880
hate to use that word it simply refers

2943
02:03:27,589 --> 02:03:25,760
to the fact that we don't have

2944
02:03:30,070 --> 02:03:27,599
scientific principles to adequately

2945
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:30,080
understand describe what's going on i

2946
02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:32,320
had way more than a buzz gene and i

2947
02:03:37,430 --> 02:03:34,080
appreciate the fact that you did feel

2948
02:03:40,229 --> 02:03:37,440
something i had many physical

2949
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:40,239
involuntary movements during the seven

2950
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:41,520
eight minutes but

2951
02:03:46,709 --> 02:03:44,400
you draw that out over an hour plus as

2952
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:46,719
she did with me on two separate

2953
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:48,880
occasions and i think

2954
02:03:54,550 --> 02:03:51,440
there's a greater likelihood of having a

2955
02:03:56,470 --> 02:03:54,560
buzz and a great deal more possibly but

2956
02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:56,480
as as dr bachelor said

2957
02:04:02,390 --> 02:03:59,920
it also depends on one's receptivity uh

2958
02:04:04,709 --> 02:04:02,400
to it apparently variability among

2959
02:04:07,750 --> 02:04:04,719
people but you know just like there's a

2960
02:04:10,629 --> 02:04:07,760
lack of scientific studies in the area

2961
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:10,639
of ufology in general

2962
02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:13,440
that is you can say that true of psychic

2963
02:04:18,950 --> 02:04:16,960
healing and ndes and esp

2964
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:18,960
and we need to validate these

2965
02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:22,159
unexplainable types of events that occur

2966
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:24,800
so frequently to so many

2967
02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:28,639
marie batcher is just one example of

2968
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:31,920
many others but this area of so-called

2969
02:04:34,790 --> 02:04:34,000
psychic healing another another poor

2970
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:34,800
term

2971
02:04:39,750 --> 02:04:37,599
but distant healing has been

2972
02:04:42,229 --> 02:04:39,760
pretty much ignored by mainstream

2973
02:04:44,870 --> 02:04:42,239
science there have been a few studies

2974
02:04:47,510 --> 02:04:44,880
that have been unequivocal criticized

2975
02:04:51,589 --> 02:04:47,520
for a poor methodology one interesting

2976
02:04:54,070 --> 02:04:51,599
study with uh uh dealing with cells

2977
02:04:57,109 --> 02:04:54,080
whereby um

2978
02:04:58,149 --> 02:04:57,119
things call chronic healing energetic

2979
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:58,159
healing

2980
02:05:03,109 --> 02:05:00,639
prevented cells from

2981
02:05:06,070 --> 02:05:03,119
getting sick or dying

2982
02:05:08,870 --> 02:05:06,080
when when exposed to radiation in

2983
02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:08,880
contrast those cells that then receive

2984
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:10,320
so-called

2985
02:05:14,870 --> 02:05:11,920
distant healing

2986
02:05:17,109 --> 02:05:14,880
became sick statistically significant 50

2987
02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:17,119
percent versus something like 92

2988
02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:19,440
something like that the point is science

2989
02:05:23,510 --> 02:05:20,480
needs to focus

2990
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:23,520
more on people like dr bachelet dr

2991
02:05:27,589 --> 02:05:25,520
batcher is quite unique but she's not

2992
02:05:29,589 --> 02:05:27,599
the only one out of you know five six

2993
02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:29,599
billion people on the planet with this

2994
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:32,560
ability and yes i agree with all you

2995
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:35,119
said uh gene i i think you you're to be

2996
02:05:40,229 --> 02:05:37,360
commended for your skepticism i want

2997
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:40,239
everybody to be skeptical i am skeptical

2998
02:05:45,189 --> 02:05:42,560
uh the only reason why i believe in her

2999
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:45,199
abilities as i mentioned earlier excuse

3000
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:48,320
my redundancies because i experienced it

3001
02:05:53,990 --> 02:05:51,360
and then i can say unequivocally that

3002
02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:54,000
there is something there that she is the

3003
02:05:58,310 --> 02:05:55,920
real deal and that it is a very

3004
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:58,320
pronounced and positive

3005
02:06:03,109 --> 02:06:01,119
outcome uh at least in my experience and

3006
02:06:04,310 --> 02:06:03,119
the experiences of those that i referred

3007
02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:04,320
to her

3008
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:07,599
now among other things marie do you also

3009
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:08,719
channel

3010
02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:10,880
galactic beings

3011
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:13,440
how i would describe it is that i get

3012
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:16,800
knowings so things come into my

3013
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:19,360
awareness about the people i'm working

3014
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:22,480
with that i couldn't have possibly known

3015
02:06:29,030 --> 02:06:26,880
i don't feel it as anything other than

3016
02:06:30,709 --> 02:06:29,040
me or something that i'm directly

3017
02:06:33,430 --> 02:06:30,719
connected with

3018
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:33,440
giving me information but it comes as

3019
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:36,960
more and as an intuitive download i

3020
02:06:42,069 --> 02:06:39,760
don't hear clear voices telling me

3021
02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:42,079
things it's just a knowing that comes

3022
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:43,920
through me okay so you receive

3023
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:45,440
impressions

3024
02:06:47,589 --> 02:06:46,800
yeah

3025
02:06:49,270 --> 02:06:47,599
and

3026
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:49,280
you're guessing

3027
02:06:52,229 --> 02:06:50,639
as to what the source of those

3028
02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:52,239
impressions might be

3029
02:06:59,350 --> 02:06:55,679
um yeah look you know my again on an

3030
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:59,360
intuitive level my my knowing is telling

3031
02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:01,920
me that this is something to do with

3032
02:07:05,510 --> 02:07:04,480
what i would call my higher dimensional

3033
02:07:08,629 --> 02:07:05,520
self

3034
02:07:10,830 --> 02:07:08,639
that part of me that that exists that's

3035
02:07:13,109 --> 02:07:10,840
really in an energetic

3036
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:13,119
form okay

3037
02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:15,840
these are all impressions you have

3038
02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:17,199
and they're no more valid than someone

3039
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:18,719
else says that

3040
02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:20,400
god did this to me and sent me this

3041
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:22,560
message or one of the angels

3042
02:07:27,910 --> 02:07:24,880
yeah absolutely

3043
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okay so you accept the fact that your

3044
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:29,520
interpretation here is no more valid

3045
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:31,760
than anybody else's but we're in a world

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of science here and science is going to

3047
02:07:36,069 --> 02:07:34,560
want to say

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02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:36,079
all right so gene felt a little bit

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better

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02:07:41,669 --> 02:07:39,440
after seven or eight minutes of

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dr marie batchelor

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but he was also relaxing

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and whatever he felt

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might have been caused by his state of

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relaxation

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at the time

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that you had nothing to do with it you

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02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:55,920
were just there maybe you were doing a

3059
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little hypnotic

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so you wouldn't disagree with that

3061
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um well look that's a possibility

3062
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however um and you know that may be the

3063
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case for you but what other people have

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experienced has been

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you know

3066
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more significant throughout a session

3067
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and certainly i you know i would go

3068
02:08:25,030 --> 02:08:22,800
deeper and and into more um exploration

3069
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:25,040
of your actual physical emotional and

3070
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:28,000
mental body when i did a session however

3071
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:30,880
i think that we would say that in um

3072
02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:32,960
bob's case that it was more than just a

3073
02:08:37,910 --> 02:08:35,679
sensation of relaxation and certainly in

3074
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the session that i performed on him in

3075
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person when we met

3076
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it was way beyond a form of relaxation

3077
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in fact if anything it was far from

3078
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relaxation it was coughing it was

3079
02:08:51,910 --> 02:08:48,960
jerking movements it was you know at

3080
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times even uncomfortable as as things

3081
02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:54,480
actually happened in his physicality

3082
02:08:58,310 --> 02:08:56,480
well i'll assure you listeners that if

3083
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:58,320
you had a camera on me

3084
02:09:02,709 --> 02:09:00,159
i was probably not jerking around i was

3085
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just seated there with my eyes closed

3086
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and a lot of people don't jerk around

3087
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can i say that that a lot of people

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don't and you know some people

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spontaneously cry

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some people you know just feel a feeling

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of upliftment some people that buzzy

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significant and they say they have a

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sensation of of tingling that is quite

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significant out of their hands and feet

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or around their face

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or a sensation of things lifting off

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their shoulders you know it's it's very

3099
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different from person to person i don't

3100
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think anybody experiences this exactly

3101
02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:40,480
the same way

3102
02:09:45,030 --> 02:09:43,760
now when you were doing this

3103
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and we're going to have to break in a

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moment when you were doing this did you

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have any impressions of me whatever and

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if so what were they

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um the impressions were as

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coming from more of a skeptical

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really real is anything really happening

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that you were perhaps less open than

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i guess is a healer

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would we call you a faith healer i guess

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that could be one title do you ever

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anymore having done this

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go back and practice traditional

3261
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medicine anymore or is that

3262
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:12,239
long ago and far away yeah look that

3263
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feels long ago and far away and i

3264
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actually don't practice normal

3265
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mainstream medicine anymore you know

3266
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i've been called upon occasionally to a

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friend's child or something and yet

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there has been occasion to actually

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do something of that nature for a friend

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but apart from that no i don't practice

3271
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it formally anymore okay if someone

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wants to book a session with you you

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charge a fee i do

3274
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okay

3275
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is it by the hour by the session what

3276
02:16:46,230 --> 02:16:43,200
well it's by the session but which is

3277
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generally an hour but you know i'm not

3278
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precise about the timing but it's fairly

3279
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close it's an hour that i charge for

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and that depends on whether you're

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present or you do it on the phone or

3282
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what the fee is uh 165 dollars

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02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:02,479
and that's australian dollars which i

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don't know how that compares to american

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dollars

3286
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:07,840
no i'm not exactly sure it's about 100

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02:17:11,589 --> 02:17:09,760
it's around 100

3288
02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:11,599
as we speak

3289
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compared to u.s currency it's loading

3290
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and it says right now

3291
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it makes no sense whatever but you're

3292
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right it's probably close to a hundred

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dollars and this is either in person or

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from skype

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that's right

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now

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we focus very much on

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your practice what you do and everything

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else

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do you follow

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anything of what

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dr robert davis follows in terms of ufos

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and stuff like that do you have any

3304
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particular feeling about it

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yeah i certainly do follow it and yes i

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come from an understanding that people

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experiencing you know what it is that

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they're exactly experiencing so that

3315
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there is this improvement in well-being

3316
02:18:11,830 --> 02:18:09,280
this outlook

3317
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:11,840
an improvement in their outlook on life

3318
02:18:15,990 --> 02:18:14,639
a sense of more harmony and peace and it

3319
02:18:17,830 --> 02:18:16,000
seems to happen

3320
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:17,840
you know with various types of

3321
02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:20,479
experiences yeah i relate very closely

3322
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:23,200
to all of that by the way the latest

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3324
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and 57 cents us dollars okay so it's a

3325
02:18:35,830 --> 02:18:34,080
little bit closer than we thought okay

3326
02:18:37,830 --> 02:18:35,840
what about the feeling on the part of a

3327
02:18:40,270 --> 02:18:37,840
lot of people who believe in ufos that

3328
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:40,280
were being visited by e.t that

3329
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:42,800
extraterrestrials have come here

3330
02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:44,800
to say hello or just make their presence

3331
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:46,800
known

3332
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:49,200
yeah look i relate to that i think that

3333
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,240
these higher dimensional beings have

3334
02:18:57,270 --> 02:18:54,639
technologies and capabilities way beyond

3335
02:19:00,950 --> 02:18:57,280
what we have here on earth okay so you

3336
02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:00,960
think they're higher dimensional beings

3337
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:04,840
so it's not as if we have creatures

3338
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:08,080
from alpha centauri one of the planets

3339
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:09,439
circling

3340
02:19:13,669 --> 02:19:10,960
alpha centauri

3341
02:19:15,110 --> 02:19:13,679
it's not that it is higher beings from

3342
02:19:17,910 --> 02:19:15,120
another dimension

3343
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:17,920
i think we may possibly have both

3344
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:18,880
all right

3345
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:21,040
so if we see a physical flying saucer

3346
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:22,960
out there

3347
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:25,200
is that a physical aircraft that's

3348
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:26,960
flying through the skies or

3349
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:30,000
something sent by these galactic beings

3350
02:20:00,710 --> 02:19:30,880
i

3351
02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:00,720
mary rodwell and the work that she does

3352
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:02,880
with the children that are actually

3353
02:20:07,270 --> 02:20:05,200
having a lot of these experiences and

3354
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,280
the children come to her to explain to

3355
02:20:10,630 --> 02:20:09,359
them to explain to her what has happened

3356
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:10,640
to them

3357
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:13,359
overnight perhaps and in her book the

3358
02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:15,600
new human awakening to our cosmic

3359
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:16,560
heritage

3360
02:20:22,150 --> 02:20:19,120
she goes into great detail of

3361
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:22,160
experiences that many children have had

3362
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:25,040
overnight by being visited by off-world

3363
02:20:31,190 --> 02:20:27,520
beings either in solid form

3364
02:20:33,110 --> 02:20:31,200
or in more of a sort of frequency

3365
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:33,120
okay how do we know what kind of beings

3366
02:20:36,630 --> 02:20:34,080
they are

3367
02:20:38,630 --> 02:20:36,640
well it's difficult to tell exactly what

3368
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:38,640
beings they are apart from some people

3369
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:41,439
communicating and asking them directly

3370
02:20:45,190 --> 02:20:43,840
okay but if they communicate and ask

3371
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:45,200
them directly

3372
02:20:49,349 --> 02:20:46,800
why believe them

3373
02:20:51,190 --> 02:20:49,359
well again it comes down to

3374
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:51,200
an energetic feeling and whether it

3375
02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:54,880
feels positive benevolent truthful

3376
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:57,680
and from what bob was just saying about

3377
02:21:02,309 --> 02:21:00,000
the surveys a lot of people are getting

3378
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:02,319
that positive feeling about it

3379
02:21:06,150 --> 02:21:04,399
okay so it's your feeling there's no

3380
02:21:08,550 --> 02:21:06,160
objective evidence but if they make you

3381
02:21:09,429 --> 02:21:08,560
feel good e.t could be here to take us

3382
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:09,439
over

3383
02:21:15,190 --> 02:21:12,319
but vt makes you feel good about what

3384
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:15,200
they do through mind control or

3385
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:18,240
some kind of substance whatever

3386
02:21:24,389 --> 02:21:22,319
that's fine we have no way to prove it

3387
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:24,399
yeah well again you know it goes back to

3388
02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:26,880
these are difficult things to prove but

3389
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:29,600
by collating more and more

3390
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:30,399
you know

3391
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:32,960
literature from or expression of what

3392
02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:35,040
people are experiencing that's where

3393
02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:36,960
we're going to start formulating a

3394
02:21:40,870 --> 02:21:38,800
greater understanding

3395
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:40,880
if i may just add

3396
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:42,560
for one minute i i just want to

3397
02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:45,040
emphasize that maria is not a member of

3398
02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:47,680
free and i i asked you and you you to

3399
02:21:52,790 --> 02:21:49,920
have her as a guest and you you were

3400
02:21:56,309 --> 02:21:52,800
kind enough to have have her as a guest

3401
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:56,319
and i i did so because i wanted to uh

3402
02:22:02,230 --> 02:21:59,120
emphasize that science needs to focus

3403
02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:02,240
more attention on ufos like it does in

3404
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:04,319
the area of medical healing from a

3405
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:08,080
distance or look at marie's abilities

3406
02:22:13,429 --> 02:22:09,840
which are not unique

3407
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:13,439
solely to her but here again we need

3408
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:16,160
mainstream science to try to

3409
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:18,399
answer the the proper questions that

3410
02:22:23,429 --> 02:22:21,520
you're asking gene i i share those same

3411
02:22:26,309 --> 02:22:23,439
questions we don't have the tangible

3412
02:22:28,070 --> 02:22:26,319
evidence we have theoretical ideas from

3413
02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:28,080
from the world of quantum physics you

3414
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:30,800
know at best to try to explain all of

3415
02:22:34,469 --> 02:22:31,680
this

3416
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:34,479
it's very common to take quantum physics

3417
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:36,240
and throw everything into that basket

3418
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:38,080
okay i don't know what this is but it's

3419
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:39,600
quantum physics

3420
02:22:45,190 --> 02:22:42,560
explains

3421
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:45,200
what she does because right now

3422
02:22:49,750 --> 02:22:47,920
all i know is she made me feel relaxed

3423
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:49,760
but it doesn't take anybody with

3424
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:52,800
masterful powers to do that it could be

3425
02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:55,920
a trained hypnotherapist it could be a

3426
02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:57,760
psychologist it could be any kind of

3427
02:23:01,429 --> 02:22:58,880
analyst

3428
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:01,439
can make a person feel relaxed and it

3429
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,800
doesn't require

3430
02:23:06,389 --> 02:23:04,479
anything or any communication with

3431
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:06,399
anyone outside

3432
02:23:09,190 --> 02:23:07,520
so

3433
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:09,200
what's your response

3434
02:23:13,030 --> 02:23:10,000
yeah

3435
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:13,040
quantum physics as well as non-quantum

3436
02:23:15,830 --> 02:23:14,160
physics

3437
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:15,840
obviously tries to

3438
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:17,760
develop theories

3439
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:20,160
in which consciousness

3440
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:21,920
can possibly

3441
02:23:27,349 --> 02:23:24,960
be explained along with the paranormal

3442
02:23:29,030 --> 02:23:27,359
and anomalous phenomena that synchronize

3443
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:29,040
universe model the quantum hologram

3444
02:23:34,389 --> 02:23:31,840
theory of consciousness are two of many

3445
02:23:35,990 --> 02:23:34,399
types of theories within this world

3446
02:23:38,870 --> 02:23:36,000
which again let me emphasize is

3447
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:38,880
theoretical and far from proven

3448
02:23:45,349 --> 02:23:42,960
but they do have analogous principles

3449
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,359
that apply to subatomic

3450
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:47,840
particles and matter which behave in

3451
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:50,160
very mysterious unexplainable ways that

3452
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,120
defy our scientific principles

3453
02:23:58,070 --> 02:23:55,520
however the behavior of subatomic

3454
02:24:01,349 --> 02:23:58,080
particles like electrons and photons and

3455
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:01,359
i i don't want to get into the details

3456
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:03,680
of that given time because time simply

3457
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:07,120
does not permit it but the point is

3458
02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:09,120
the behavior of

3459
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:11,280
matter and energy at that

3460
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:13,600
micro mechanic level

3461
02:24:18,469 --> 02:24:15,200
can be

3462
02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:18,479
made analogous to the kinds of behaviors

3463
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,399
that we're seeing that exist in the

3464
02:24:23,910 --> 02:24:22,240
paranormal

3465
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:23,920
let's break it here

3466
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:25,600
and we'll have more

3467
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:27,200
final segment with

3468
02:24:38,650 --> 02:24:29,760
robert and marie and jean you're in the

3469
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[Applause]

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hi this is joshua p warren author of the

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poor man's paranormal and you're

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[Music]

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all right so we get into quantum physics

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robert davis

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what do you tell a scientist to do to

3581
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approach this to try to find something

3582
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:25,760
evidential well i i think science again

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needs to focus more

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time and attention and fiscal human

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resources to trying to figure out what

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is going on with all the phenomena that

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thousands if not millions of people are

3588
02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:37,840
experiencing in in a variety of

3589
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:40,880
different ways but be it ufos esp

3590
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:43,920
psychic healing remote viewing etc etc

3591
02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:45,760
and there are numerous studies that do

3592
02:29:49,349 --> 02:29:47,680
suggest that human intention and

3593
02:29:51,429 --> 02:29:49,359
consciousness are

3594
02:29:53,990 --> 02:29:51,439
significantly influencing physical

3595
02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:54,000
reality which is obviously includes

3596
02:29:57,190 --> 02:29:54,960
people

3597
02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:57,200
now here again we don't have 100

3598
02:30:02,309 --> 02:30:00,160
irrefutable evidence to explain the

3599
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:02,319
nature of what marie does again on a

3600
02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:04,960
personal level i know she she is real

3601
02:30:09,670 --> 02:30:06,640
that there is something to it and very

3602
02:30:12,230 --> 02:30:09,680
positive like people who experience esp

3603
02:30:14,469 --> 02:30:12,240
or or ufos they know it's real but can

3604
02:30:16,630 --> 02:30:14,479
you prove it you can't prove that love

3605
02:30:19,510 --> 02:30:16,640
is real either you can't quantify it as

3606
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:19,520
well but we know love is real that sort

3607
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:21,840
of thing nevertheless there have been

3608
02:30:25,990 --> 02:30:23,439
many studies that have been done with

3609
02:30:28,230 --> 02:30:26,000
esp that strongly suggests not

3610
02:30:30,309 --> 02:30:28,240
convincingly conclude that mental

3611
02:30:32,150 --> 02:30:30,319
intuition can have a direct effect on

3612
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:32,160
physical systems in numerous different

3613
02:30:35,910 --> 02:30:33,120
ways

3614
02:30:38,469 --> 02:30:35,920
dean raiden's work on that note

3615
02:30:41,110 --> 02:30:38,479
but here again although maria is not

3616
02:30:44,309 --> 02:30:41,120
associated with free i wanted her to be

3617
02:30:47,349 --> 02:30:44,319
a a guest on the show just to

3618
02:30:50,870 --> 02:30:47,359
illustrate how science

3619
02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:50,880
unfortunately does not provide enough

3620
02:30:56,710 --> 02:30:53,760
time and attention to studying such

3621
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:56,720
paranormal or inexplicable events and

3622
02:31:00,550 --> 02:30:58,960
circumstances experiences that people

3623
02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:00,560
report believe

3624
02:31:06,389 --> 02:31:04,160
in numerous ways it applies yes to ufos

3625
02:31:07,990 --> 02:31:06,399
because people report medical healings

3626
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:08,000
when they interact with these beings in

3627
02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:10,000
fact 40 percent of the people in our

3628
02:31:14,469 --> 02:31:12,160
survey say that they had

3629
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:14,479
been healed physically as a direct

3630
02:31:18,230 --> 02:31:16,000
result of their interaction with

3631
02:31:19,590 --> 02:31:18,240
non-human intelligence they also feel

3632
02:31:22,710 --> 02:31:19,600
united

3633
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:22,720
or one with the universe they feel a

3634
02:31:27,750 --> 02:31:25,439
unconditional love they feel as if

3635
02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,760
they're experiencing multi-dimensional

3636
02:31:32,630 --> 02:31:30,240
realities they feel as if they're above

3637
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:32,640
and beyond just a body alone that

3638
02:31:37,190 --> 02:31:35,920
they're a spiritual being within a body

3639
02:31:39,670 --> 02:31:37,200
numerous

3640
02:31:41,270 --> 02:31:39,680
similar convincing

3641
02:31:44,389 --> 02:31:41,280
perceptions

3642
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:44,399
whereby space and time doesn't exist or

3643
02:31:49,030 --> 02:31:46,240
time slows down

3644
02:31:52,070 --> 02:31:49,040
tele being teleported up to a craft or

3645
02:31:55,510 --> 02:31:52,080
moving through physical walls uh missing

3646
02:31:57,349 --> 02:31:55,520
time all of these are unusual distorted

3647
02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:57,359
like perceptions

3648
02:32:01,750 --> 02:31:59,520
are obviously highly difficult to

3649
02:32:03,590 --> 02:32:01,760
explain yes physicists attempt to

3650
02:32:05,670 --> 02:32:03,600
explain it through their parallel

3651
02:32:08,630 --> 02:32:05,680
universe models synchronize universe

3652
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:08,640
models etc etc they may be right they

3653
02:32:12,230 --> 02:32:10,880
may be wrong who knows but the point is

3654
02:32:15,510 --> 02:32:12,240
science must

3655
02:32:18,389 --> 02:32:15,520
direct more study in these areas which

3656
02:32:19,670 --> 02:32:18,399
encompass a very wide spectrum and build

3657
02:32:22,389 --> 02:32:19,680
upon the

3658
02:32:24,469 --> 02:32:22,399
study that free is doing with

3659
02:32:27,429 --> 02:32:24,479
individuals who are having a quite a

3660
02:32:29,190 --> 02:32:27,439
unique experience and being transformed

3661
02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:29,200
the vast majority of the time very

3662
02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:30,720
positively

3663
02:32:35,110 --> 02:32:33,359
well at this point if i want a scientist

3664
02:32:36,710 --> 02:32:35,120
to get involved here

3665
02:32:39,030 --> 02:32:36,720
do i sell it

3666
02:32:41,750 --> 02:32:39,040
on quantum physics or what well not at

3667
02:32:44,469 --> 02:32:41,760
all uh it has to be multi-dimensional

3668
02:32:47,110 --> 02:32:44,479
and quantum physics being one but all

3669
02:32:49,270 --> 02:32:47,120
the sciences and non-sciences uh

3670
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:49,280
theology philosophy

3671
02:32:54,790 --> 02:32:51,600
all disciplines should be engaged at

3672
02:32:58,870 --> 02:32:54,800
some level because the the ramifications

3673
02:33:02,230 --> 02:32:58,880
are are so uh wide in its spectrum

3674
02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:02,240
and experience in such uh unique ways on

3675
02:33:08,230 --> 02:33:04,720
so many different levels that affect

3676
02:33:12,230 --> 02:33:08,240
one's physical psychological spiritual

3677
02:33:15,270 --> 02:33:12,240
emotional etc uh perspectives that that

3678
02:33:18,389 --> 02:33:15,280
we need to have have quantitative as

3679
02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:18,399
well as qualitative and verifiable in

3680
02:33:23,670 --> 02:33:21,040
the form of one and one equals two if at

3681
02:33:27,030 --> 02:33:23,680
all possible and and at present we don't

3682
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:27,040
have those principles to give us uh uh

3683
02:33:34,550 --> 02:33:30,080
the answer to all of this but here again

3684
02:33:35,670 --> 02:33:34,560
we can only speculate all i can say

3685
02:33:37,910 --> 02:33:35,680
is that

3686
02:33:40,150 --> 02:33:37,920
like the ufo phenomena

3687
02:33:42,710 --> 02:33:40,160
i believe it is real what it is the

3688
02:33:44,790 --> 02:33:42,720
answer to your questions no clue all i

3689
02:33:46,870 --> 02:33:44,800
can say with certainty that something is

3690
02:33:49,110 --> 02:33:46,880
going on that we cannot explain that i

3691
02:33:51,990 --> 02:33:49,120
will say with a great deal of certainty

3692
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:52,000
likewise with marie batchelor i believe

3693
02:33:55,349 --> 02:33:53,680
she is the real deal and i can say that

3694
02:33:57,830 --> 02:33:55,359
with certain certainty because i

3695
02:34:00,950 --> 02:33:57,840
experienced it and i encourage if there

3696
02:34:02,950 --> 02:34:00,960
are any scientists listening to dr

3697
02:34:05,750 --> 02:34:02,960
batchelor's comments

3698
02:34:08,710 --> 02:34:05,760
i encourage them to become more engaged

3699
02:34:10,550 --> 02:34:08,720
and possibly consider doing a study with

3700
02:34:14,230 --> 02:34:10,560
her to validate

3701
02:34:16,550 --> 02:34:14,240
what she contends i and my other friends

3702
02:34:18,710 --> 02:34:16,560
who've experienced her we can validate

3703
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:18,720
it but within ourselves that doesn't

3704
02:34:22,710 --> 02:34:21,200
convince anybody else language doesn't

3705
02:34:23,990 --> 02:34:22,720
convince others

3706
02:34:26,150 --> 02:34:24,000
i can make you believe it through

3707
02:34:27,990 --> 02:34:26,160
language but nobody should believe it

3708
02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:28,000
okay so there's no way to look at you

3709
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:30,640
and say robert let's do a before and

3710
02:34:35,830 --> 02:34:33,359
after there's no before and after you

3711
02:34:37,750 --> 02:34:35,840
feel better and that's pretty much it

3712
02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:37,760
mostly and that's what we need to do try

3713
02:34:42,389 --> 02:34:40,160
to develop an objective objective

3714
02:34:44,710 --> 02:34:42,399
methodology along the lines you're

3715
02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:44,720
talking about likewise

3716
02:34:49,429 --> 02:34:47,280
the day before in comparison to the day

3717
02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:49,439
after that i had the session with marie

3718
02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:51,520
the validation was looking at myself in

3719
02:34:56,150 --> 02:34:54,080
the mirror this guy was different in a

3720
02:34:58,630 --> 02:34:56,160
positive way i still can't really

3721
02:35:02,070 --> 02:34:58,640
understand how different you were i know

3722
02:35:04,070 --> 02:35:02,080
tell me about it my left egoic brain

3723
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:04,080
you know involved in neuroscience for 30

3724
02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:05,920
years in terms of research is now

3725
02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:08,080
looking in the mirror and says i can't

3726
02:35:11,190 --> 02:35:10,319
put words on it to describe or to make

3727
02:35:14,070 --> 02:35:11,200
you

3728
02:35:16,710 --> 02:35:14,080
feel what i felt here again

3729
02:35:18,870 --> 02:35:16,720
it doesn't do it justice other than say

3730
02:35:21,110 --> 02:35:18,880
what my friend told me who just had an

3731
02:35:24,389 --> 02:35:21,120
obsession with marie the world seems

3732
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:24,399
magical in a positive way i feel lighter

3733
02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:26,640
she said to me my friend uh another

3734
02:35:30,950 --> 02:35:28,800
friend said i don't have any more pain

3735
02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:30,960
when i looked in the mirror

3736
02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:33,280
i felt like i was looking at the world

3737
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,120
like i was eight years old and i just

3738
02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:37,280
hit a home run rounding the bases in the

3739
02:35:40,250 --> 02:35:38,960
bronx where you're sounding to me like

3740
02:35:42,230 --> 02:35:40,260
you just took a psychedelic

3741
02:35:44,070 --> 02:35:42,240
[Laughter]

3742
02:35:44,790 --> 02:35:44,080
and you know what it does sound like

3743
02:35:47,349 --> 02:35:44,800
that

3744
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:47,359
so strange this is like drugless

3745
02:35:51,030 --> 02:35:49,120
psychedelic treatment

3746
02:35:52,309 --> 02:35:51,040
this is a drugless you go sit there for

3747
02:35:55,590 --> 02:35:52,319
an hour

3748
02:35:57,990 --> 02:35:55,600
and you may feel the fact that you

3749
02:36:01,510 --> 02:35:58,000
have 125 dollars less in your wallet you

3750
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:02,790
that's a good point if it's a

3751
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:05,280
psychedelic give me more if it's a

3752
02:36:09,750 --> 02:36:07,680
power suggestion give me more uh it's a

3753
02:36:11,429 --> 02:36:09,760
good point it's not it wasn't obviously

3754
02:36:13,429 --> 02:36:11,439
drug-induced but you know along those

3755
02:36:16,630 --> 02:36:13,439
lines gene people are doing ayahuasca

3756
02:36:18,950 --> 02:36:16,640
now and the dmt molecule people swear by

3757
02:36:21,030 --> 02:36:18,960
their experience and the the this very

3758
02:36:23,190 --> 02:36:21,040
strange experiences they have let's not

3759
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,200
go there but that's becoming a you know

3760
02:36:28,550 --> 02:36:26,080
the new thing now i i never tried it nor

3761
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:28,560
will i ever but the point is yes it does

3762
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:31,600
hint at that gene i agree

3763
02:36:36,550 --> 02:36:33,760
i guess if you can get what feels like a

3764
02:36:37,910 --> 02:36:36,560
drug effect dr robert davis please tell

3765
02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:37,920
our listeners if they want to know more

3766
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:39,520
about what you do

3767
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:41,040
where do they go to check it out for

3768
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:42,720
those interested in

3769
02:36:49,110 --> 02:36:46,000
the the work that free is engaged in

3770
02:36:52,150 --> 02:36:49,120
please go to experiencer.org

3771
02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:52,160
we have support services for those who

3772
02:36:56,950 --> 02:36:54,640
have been experiences and who may feel

3773
02:36:58,630 --> 02:36:56,960
confused anxious and want answers we

3774
02:37:00,389 --> 02:36:58,640
have counsels available to assist

3775
02:37:01,990 --> 02:37:00,399
individuals you can take our survey if

3776
02:37:04,389 --> 02:37:02,000
you think you've had an interaction with

3777
02:37:06,150 --> 02:37:04,399
the ufo of any type and there are

3778
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:06,160
scholarly articles written by many

3779
02:37:10,790 --> 02:37:08,800
members of free you can continue your

3780
02:37:12,950 --> 02:37:10,800
reading with an open mind and i

3781
02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:12,960
encourage everybody to be skeptical of

3782
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:14,720
all of this and don't draw any

3783
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:16,880
conclusions marie can you tell our

3784
02:37:20,150 --> 02:37:18,560
listeners where they can check out the

3785
02:37:22,910 --> 02:37:20,160
services you provide

3786
02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:22,920
sure my website is

3787
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:26,000
mariebacheler.com so that spelling is m

3788
02:37:29,429 --> 02:37:28,000
a r double e

3789
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:29,439
b a t

3790
02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:34,080
c h e l o r dot com my email if people

3791
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:36,080
want to email me if they're inquiring

3792
02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:39,120
about a session and time availability

3793
02:37:44,309 --> 02:37:42,399
my email is bachelor marie

3794
02:37:46,630 --> 02:37:44,319
gmail.com

3795
02:37:48,790 --> 02:37:46,640
my skype if people needed to type a

3796
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:48,800
message to me on skype it's simply marie

3797
02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:50,960
batula you can find us on twitter if you

3798
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:52,479
look for the power cast look for the

3799
02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:54,720
power cast on twitter look for two power

3800
02:37:59,510 --> 02:37:57,439
cast fan clubs on facebook one's a group

3801
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:59,520
one's a community we also have a second

3802
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:01,040
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3803
02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:04,000
after the power cast we're going to have

3804
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,920
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3805
02:38:09,750 --> 02:38:07,680
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02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:09,760
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3808
02:38:17,590 --> 02:38:16,080
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3809
02:38:19,990 --> 02:38:17,600
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3810
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3814
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:27,280
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3815
02:38:31,750 --> 02:38:30,000
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3816
02:38:33,990 --> 02:38:31,760
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3817
02:38:36,790 --> 02:38:34,000
on the power cast well thank you very

3818
02:38:39,349 --> 02:38:36,800
much for your uh insights your skeptical

3819
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:39,359
approach and and for having us as guests

3820
02:38:43,510 --> 02:38:41,439
we greatly appreciate it

3821
02:38:46,070 --> 02:38:43,520
thank you jean wonderful to have an

3822
02:38:48,550 --> 02:38:46,080
opportunity to talk with you and all

3823
02:38:51,290 --> 02:38:48,560
your listeners and yeah thank you for

3824
02:39:04,309 --> 02:38:51,300
having me on your show

3825
02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:07,110
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3826
02:39:13,030 --> 02:39:10,080
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